Journalling (or Moving) Shares from the Canadian Dollar to the US Dollar Portfolio in a BMO InvestorLine Account

I hold a few Canadian stocks that pay their dividends in US dollars. If I hold them in the Canadian side of my BMO InvestorLine portfolio, BMO charges me a small fee built into the exchange rate when it credits the dividends and distributions to my Canadian dollar portfolio. I’ve decided to move those shares by journalling them into the US dollar side of my portfolio so that no exchange rate is charged until and unless I move the cash back to my Canadian dollar portfolio.

How to Journal Shares at InvestorLine: Sometimes, All You Got to Do Is Call

Moving the shares from the Canadian side of my portfolio to the American side is as easy as making a phone call.

I phoned BMO InvestorLine, chose my preferred national language, entered my account number and my password. Then I went on hold waiting to speak to an agent.

Within 3 minutes early on a Tuesday morning, my call was picked up. Within another two minutes, the agent had journalled two sets of shares from the Canadian dollar side of my account to the US dollar side.

When Will My Shares Show Up on the Screen as In the US Side of My Portfolio at InvestorLine?

Although the shares are now in the US side and I could sell them on the US exchange, they do not yet appear on the US side listing on screen.

It will take tonight’s batch update to fix that. Tomorrow, the next business day after I requested the change, the shares will show up properly.

So that’s another tidying up job done for the day.

Why Did My US Dollar Dividend or Distribution Still End Up in my Canadian Dollar Account at InvestorLine?

NOTE: If you are trying to get paid the dividend or distribution in US dollars, be sure to request the transfer before the ex-dividend date. If you leave it too close to the date of payment, the paper trail will not go through in time to the company processing the dividend and distribution payments.

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My Child Is Now 15 (Or 16) What Should I Do with My Self-Directed Brokerage RESP?

Managing an RESP is easy for the first dozen years. You have to make some decisions at the beginning. (Family plan? Individual plan? Bank? Brokerage? 100% safe savings accounts and GICs only? Some risk with equity investing in stocks through ETFs or mutual funds or individual blue chip investments?) After a while, though, you fall into an investment pattern and just stick with it. But as your child (or eldest child) nears the age of starting post-secondary school education, you need to make some decisions again.

First: Move the Money for First Year Into Risk-Free Investments

If your child is going to attend a university and live in residence for their first year after high school, you can estimate that they will need at least $20 000. Programs like Engineering will cost more. Living at home might cost less. But $20 000 is a good starting estimate and it’s likely they will actually need more than that for a university program, unless you live in and they want to attend university in Quebec.

You may have that $20 000 invested in equities. It may be in a mirror-the-stock-market ETF, a mutual fund, or shares in specific companies. If, the week before you need to take it out in cash to pay for residence or fees, the stock market has a sharp pull-back you could be in trouble. A 10% drop in the equity market might drop your $20 000 to $18 000.

Many people who have RESPs with over $20 000 in them could probably delay liquidating the equities in the RESP for a while. They could find the money to pay for residence and tuition in other places, like their emergency fund. But that might not be a great idea: it can take a year or more for the market to rebound. And, of course, there is no “stop limit” that guarantees it will only decline 10%. It could crash like it did in 2008-2009 and take years to claw its way back up.

So if you’re risk averse like I am, you will probably want to get that $20 000 for first year into something risk free before it’s needed. When your child reaches the age of 15 or 16, you may want to put that $20 000 into a cash account or a GIC or term deposit of some kind. I’ll be checking the rates offered by various investments at BMO InvestorLine soon.

Next: Consider WHERE You Want to House Your RESP While Your Child Is Making Withdrawals

According to the CRA information for RESP providers (like banks and brokerages) once your child starts making withdrawals from the RESP, you cannot move the RESP to another institution!

So in the year or so before your child graduates from high school, you should evaluate your RESP provider. Are there fees to make withdrawals from the RESP? What type of paperwork will the provider require to make the withdrawals? Would it be easier to move the entire RESP to another provider with lower fees or less paperwork?

Reading about some of the strange requirements for RESP withdrawals that others have experienced in the past makes me nervous. Soon, I will start looking at the rules at BMO InvestorLine and deciding if they are acceptable. If not, I will need a few months to get the investments transferred elsewhere. So I’ll want to make the decision long before my child is in final year at high school.

Finally: Develop a Strategy for the Next Few Years for the RESP

If you have more than one child, you also may need to plan a strategy for the RESP. When will you liquidate any equity holdings? Will you sell them when a certain profit is achieved? Or will you sell them based purely on the time at which the money may be needed? Will you buy a series of GICs with 5, 4 and 3 year terms, or only use 1-year terms?

How will you make the division of the loot equitable? What if you liquidate the equities for your eldest child when the market is high but when you go to do the same for your youngest child the market has been down for years? Do you “owe” each child the same number of dollars for their education? Will you “hold back” some of the money from the eldest child in case you need it to keep things even for the youngest of several children?

It’s better to develop a strategy before the first child starts using the money. Which means my husband and I have some thinking to do!

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