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We recently opened a non-registered trading account at CIBC Investor’s Edge. We already had a RRSP account there so one of the first things I wanted to do was group the accounts under one id. Then I could sign in and make trades, buy GICs, or park dividends in a high interest savings account without having to sign in and out of each account separately. Here’s how I grouped the Investor’s Edge accounts under one Userid.

Can You Group Investor’s Edge Accounts Belonging to Family Members or Friends Under Your Userid?

That depends on whether you have trading authority for those accounts.

If yes, then yes you can link them using this procedure.
If you don’t, then no, you can’t link them using this procedure. (You can call Investor’s Edge and discuss whether there is any other way for you to link the accounts.)

In general, you can only link accounts which you own or for which you have trading authority.

Will Linking (called “Relating”) the Accounts Automatically Qualify the Accounts for Cheaper Trades?

Investor’s Edge currently (in August 2014) offers $6.95 trades to customers with over $100 000 in business with CIBC and/or Investor’s Edge.

You will not automatically get $6.95 trades just by linking or relating your accounts. You need to phone Investor’s Edge to ensure the lower-priced trades are properly set up for your accounts.

What You’ll Need to Group the Accounts

You’ll need to know the account number for each account you want to add to appear under a Userid. The account number was assigned by CIBC Investor’s Edge when you opened the account. You may have to look back at your statements or welcome documents to find the number depending on whether you’ve been using a Userid you selected yourself as your sign in id.

To Add and Group Additional Accounts to Your Investor’s Edge Userid

Sign in to Investor’s Edge using the Userid you want to use to see all of your accounts at the same time.
From the link list on the left side of the screen, click on the link: User Preferences.
Under the subheading Account Options, click on the link: Relate brokerage accounts.
In the Account Number to Relate: field, type the first account number you want to be able to see when using this Userid. For example, type the account number for your TFSA.
Click on the Relate Brokerage Account button.
If desired, repeat for another account. For example, type the account number for your RRSP.

You’re done!

Now when you sign in, you will see your holdings and other information for each of the “related” accounts.

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Most online self-directed brokerages offer RESPs within which you can receive the Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG. There are other grants and incentives available for some children, however, that not all brokerages are set up to handle. This is gradually changing as brokerages improve their offerings, so for the most up to date information, always speak with the brokerage you are considering. As of May 2014, however, this list summarizes which RESP grants, incentives and bonds are supported by which of the bigger self-directed brokerages.

What Government Grants, Bonds and Incentives Are on Offer for Children’s Education Savings?

I found information about the following federal and provincial government grants, bonds, incentives and programs to help save money for children’s higher education. There may be other programs: if you know of one, please add a comment to this article.

Federal Government Education Savings Programs

Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG: To read more click: http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/goc/cesg.shtml
Additional Education Savings Grant, AESG: To read more click: http://www.canlearn.ca/eng/savings/a-cesg.shtml
Canada Learning Bond, CLB: To read more click:
http://www.canlearn.ca/eng/savings/clb.shtml

Provincial Government Education Savings Programs

Quebec Education Savings Incentive, QESI, Basic and Additional Amount: To read more click:
http://www4.gouv.qc.ca/EN/Portail/Citoyens/Evenements/DevenirParent/Pages/incitf_eparg_etud.aspx
Alberta Centennial Education Savings Plan, ACES: To read more click: http://eae.alberta.ca/funding/aces.aspx/
Saskatchewan Advantage Grant for Education Savings, SAGES: To read more click: http://www.saskatchewan.ca/live/education-learning-and-child-care/saving-for-post-secondary-education

Government Education Funds and Self-Directed Brokerages

In order for your child to get paid various government funds for higher education, the financial institution managing your child’s RESP must set up systems that meet the various government requirements. Not all brokerages have set up the required computer systems so they don’t all support all of the possible government programs available.
Before you choose a brokerage for your child’s RESP, one factor to consider is whether that brokerage supports the grants, bonds, programs and incentives your child is entitled to receive.

(Other factors may include things like

whether there is an annual fee for the account;
whether both parents can be subscribers and share rights to the account;
what the costs are to make various types of investments;
how easy or difficult it is to withdraw funds from the account when your child starts post-secondary education;
etc.)

The brokerages are listed in alphabetical order.

BMO InvestorLine RESPs Can Receive

the

Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG *
Additional Education Savings Grant, AESG *
Canada Learning Bond, CLB *
Alberta Centennial Education Savings Plan, ACES *
Quebec Education Savings Incentive, QESI, Basic and Additional Amount

Source: https://www.bmoinvestorline.com/home/getting-started/il/accounts/resp
*This information is also listed on the gc site.

There is no mention on the BMO website about whether they can receive the Saskatchewan Advantage Grant for Education Savings, SAGES. On the gc website, it does not report that InvestorLine can manage this grant.

CIBC Investor’s Edge RESPs Can Receive

the

Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG
Alberta Centennial Education Savings Plan, ACES
Quebec Education Savings Incentive, QESI

Investor’s Edge is not listed on the gc site at all.

I used the LiveChat feature to ask a CIBC Investor’s Edge representative what grants were supported. The agent replied: “CIBC Investor’s Edge currently offers the basic CESG, Alberta Centennial Education Savings Plan (ACES) and Quebec Education Savings Incentive (QESI).”

If you needed to receive the AESG or QESI additional amount I would suggest you confirm with CIBC IE before opening an account. It sounds like they may not be offered at this time (May 2014.)

Questrade RESPs Can Receive

the

Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG *
Additional Education Savings Grant, AESG *
Canada Learning Bond, CLB *
Alberta Centennial Education Savings Plan, ACES *
Quebec Education Savings Incentive, QESI

* This information is listed on the gc site.

The Questrade site only mentions the CESG, AESG and CLB. So I used Questrade’s online chat to ask an agent what is supported. He replied that all of the above government programs are supported and that they do not yet support the SAGES grant.

RBC Direct Investing RESPs Can Receive

the

Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG *
Quebec Education Savings Incentive, QESI

Source: http://www.rbcdirectinvesting.com/resp-account.html
*This information is also listed on the gc site.

I confirmed by sending a question via LiveChat that at this time in May 2014 those are the only grants RBC Direct Investing is supporting.

Scotia iTrade RESPs Can Receive

the

Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG
Additional Education Savings Grant, AESG
Canada Learning Bond, CLB
Alberta Centennial Education Savings Plan, ACES
Quebec Education Savings Incentive, QESI, Basic and Additional Amount

Scotia iTrade is not listed on the gc site at all.

I wrote an email to the iTrade support team. They don’t seem to have live online chat and I couldn’t find any details easily on their website. They replied 1.5 days later with the above information. The representative said that at this time (May 2014) they do not support SAGES.

TD Direct Investing RESPs Can Receive

the

Canada Education Savings Grant, CESG
Quebec Education Savings Incentive, QESI

Source: http://www.tdwaterhouse.ca/products-services/investing/td-direct-investing/accounts/resp/#content3 which states:
“TD Direct Investing offers only the Canada Education Savings Grant and the Quebec Education Savings Incentive, not any other federal or provincial grants or incentives.”

TD Direct Investing is not listed on the gc site at all.

The gc site is at: http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/student/promoters/list.shtml#B

The Master List of Banks, Credit Unions and Brokerages and Which Grants, Bonds and Incentives They Support

There is a massive online list available from the federal government of which institutions support which grants, bonds and incentives. It does not list the Quebec Education Savings Initiative, QESI, but it does list the CESG, AESG, CLB, ACES and Saskatchewan Advantage Grant for Education Savings, SAGES.

Transferring RESPs Between Institutions

Be VERY CAREFUL if you transfer RESPs between two institutions. There may be special paperwork required before the transfer is initiated to ensure the grant, bond or incentive monies do not have to be given back to the government that issued them. Discuss the move in detail with both institutions before you start it!