Signing in to your BMO InvestorLine RESP Account for the First Time

After I applied for our BMO InvestorLine RESP account, I received an account number immediately because my identity was verified online. I also received a secure email message the following day that included the account number. (The email message directs you to a website where you can look up the account number.) Once I had my account number, I decided to sign in to our RESP account and take a first look.

Your first visit will take some time because you will need to

  • set your permanent password for signing in to the account
  • read the trading agreements for each of the following markets, complete any fields, and accept them
    • Canadian Exchange Group Market Data
    • Bourse de Montreal Inc (Montreal Exchange)
    • NASDAQ
    • New York Stock Exchange
    • Options Price Reporting Authority

What Do They Mean By a Professional Subscriber?

You’ll notice that the trading agreements want you to declare whether or not you are a Professional Subscriber.

I won’t try to give the world’s most accurate definition, but basically they are checking whether you are a stock broker, investment advisor, or other person who works for or with a securities agency or exchange. A person who works with stock trading must register as a Professional Subscriber, not as a Non-Professional.

You can read various definitions of the term Professional Subscriber at the Interactive Broker’s website.

It’s also defined in most of the agreements you will be reading.

If you are just a regular working person who hopes to buy a few stocks or ETFs you probably are a non-professional. If you have any doubt, call InvestorLine and describe yourself and ask for their opinion.

To Sign In To Your BMO InvestorLine RESP Account

  1. Go to the InvestorLine website at: https://www.bmoinvestorline.com/
  2. To sign in
    1. Type your account number.
    2. Type your temporary password.
    3. Click on the Go button.

On the Change Temporary Password screen

  1. In the Temporary Password field, type the password you created while setting up the account.
  2. In the New Password field, type the password you will use for the next week or more.
  3. In the Confirm New Password, type the new password again.
  4. From the drop-down list, select Challenge Question 1:
  5. In the Response 1 field, type your answer.
  6. From the drop-down list, select Challenge Question 2:
  7. In the Response 2 field, type your answer.
  8. Type your own Challenge Question 3.
  9. In the Response 3 field, type your answer.
  10. Click on the Submit button

The Complete Exchange Agreements screen opens

  • If you are not a professional subscriber, click on the Continue button.

For the Canadian Exchange Group Market Data agreement,

  • Read it and if you agree, click on the I Accept the Agreement button.

For the Bourse de Montreal Inc (Montreal Exchange) agreement,

  • Read it and if you agree click on the I Accept the Agreement button.

For the New York Stock Exchange agreement,

  1. Read it, then
  2. Click on the box to select
    I agree to the Terms and Conditions set forth in Section 1
  3. Type in your
    • Subscriber’s name
    • Subscriber’s address
    • Subscriber’s occupation
    • Name of subscriber’s employer
    • Address of subscriber’s employer
    • Subscriber’s title and position
    • Subscriber’s employment functions
  4. Click on the box to agree to being a Nonprofessional Subscriber
  5. Click on the box for I agree to the Terms and Conditions set forth in Section 2.
  6. Click on the Submit Agreement button.

For the Nasdaq Stock Market Agreement

  1. Read it, then
  2. Fill in the fields for the notices to Subscriber:
    • Name
    • Title
    • Address
    • Telephone #
    • Fax #
    • Email
  3. Click to select Individual Subscriber
  4. Click to select Non-Professional
  5. Complete the Individual Subscriber information
    • Name
    • Name again
    • Date
  6. Click on the Submit Agreement button.

For the Options Price Reporting Authority form

  1. Read it, then
  2. Enter your name and address
  3. There will be a list of statements that you have to agree with by clicking on the I agree check box.
  4. Then, in the text box, type the words: I Agree
  5. Click on the Submit Agreement button.

Which Client Agreement Do I Need to Read?

When you sign in to your BMO InvestorLine RESP account, you are shown the Client Agreement Effective January 31, 2014. This is newer than the one shown when you applied. So read this most up to date one.

To Check the Current Best Rate for a GIC in your InvestorLine RESP Account

While you’re in here, you may decide you want to see what the best offered rate is for a GIC.

If so

  1. Click on the Trading tab.
  2. From the list of choices, click on the Fixed Income link.
  3. In the Inventory Search box, click on the GICs link.
  4. Without selecting any of the choices from the drop-down lists, click on the Search button.
  5. Scroll down to look at the GICs on offer.

They are sorted from highest rate to lowest for each term and each payment type. For example:

  • cashable GICs
  • 1 year GICs that pay annually
  • 1 year GICs that pay semi-annually, then
  •  year GICs that pay monthly, etc.

On January 21 the best 5-year-GIC rate with an annual payment was 2.7% from the Laurentian Bank.

To Check the Spot Price for a Stock or ETF in Your InvestorLine RESP Account

If the markets are still open, you can check the current real-time price for a stock.

  1. From the Trading tab, select Equities.
  2. In the Symbol field, type the ticker symbol for the company.
    For example, type TD for the TD bank.
  3. Press your Enter key.
  4. The current price will be displayed in the box to the right.

Checking or Changing Your Trading Password

Before you can make your first purchase or trade you will need to review and possibly change your Trading Password. How to Set or Reset Your Trading Password for an InvestorLine Account explains how to do that.

Signing Out of Your BMO InvestorLine Account

Once you’ve changed your password, agreed to all of the security exchange documents and read your Client Agreement, you’re basically done with the paperwork for your new RESP account.

Always remember to sign out of your account when you’re finished.

  1. At the upper right side of the screen, click on the Sign out link.
  2. For increased security, clear your browser cache and close your browser session.

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How Long Does It Take to Transfer a TFSA from ING Direct to BMO InvestorLine?

This is a tale of two TFSAs. Actually, it’s a tale of four Tax Free Savings Accounts. The first two TFSAs were at ING Direct. (Now called Tangerine.) ING Direct Tangerine offered 2.5% interest for a few months for savings of up to $5500 per account (one account per client) provided the savings were transferred automatically into the client’s TFSA on January 1. My husband and I took advantage of that offer. Then, on January 2, we sent in the forms to transfer our TFSAs from Tangerine to our BMO InvestorLine accounts—but how long would it take?

UPDATE: Please be aware that as of January 2015, Tangerine has started charging a fee if you transfer your RRSP or TFSA from Tangerine to another bank, credit union, brokerage or financial institution.

Given that change, I would no longer recommend the Kick Start program unless you plan to keep your TFSA money at Tangerine for the long term.

How Did We Apply to Transfer Our TFSA Funds?

It’s important to transfer TFSA funds. If you actually withdraw the funds from a TFSA account, you have to wait till January 1 of the next year before you are allowed to deposit them again in the same TFSA or in a different TFSA at another financial institution. You can transfer TFSA funds at any time with no tax penalty.

Be careful to check whether there is a fee charged by the bank etc though before starting a transfer. ING Direct Tangerine does not charge transfer fees. (At least not as of when this was written in January 2014. Always check.) UPDATE: As of January 2015 Tangerine plans to start charging a fee to transfer TFSA funds to another financial institution.

To request the transfer of our TFSA funds to BMO InvestorLine, we signed into our InvestorLine accounts and filled out a T2033 each. The form is available under the Account Services tab, then the Forms link, then the Transfers tab, then the Transfer forms: Personal Accounts link.

You can read some more about this in How to Transfer Assets to a BMO InvestorLine Account from Another Bank Using a T2033 Form.

After we completed the forms, printed and signed them, we mailed them to BMO InvestorLine.

How Long Did It Take for My TFSA to Transfer from Tangerine to BMO InvestorLine?

I mailed our requests to transfer our funds in a bright red street mail box on January 2. I have no idea whether it got picked up that day or the next.

On Tuesday, January 14, my money was still in my TFSA at Tangerine.ca.
On Wednesday, January 15 it was gone!

First thing in the morning on January 17, my TFSA funds appeared in my cash balance in my BMO InvestorLine TFSA.

So it took 15 days for my funds to transfer, or 11 business days. That includes the “Canada Post” factor of getting my request delivered to InvestorLine.

How Long Did It Take for My Husband’s TFSA to Transfer from ING Direct (Tangerine) to BMO InvestorLine?

We don’t know yet.

That’s right. It’s now January 22 and his funds have not yet left Tangerine. They are sitting in a cash TFSA account which is fortunately earning 2.5% while he waits.

UPDATE: Thursday, January 23: My husband’s TFSA has now left Tangerine. It has not yet arrived in his BMO InvestorLine account as of the morning of Monday, January 27.

Ah! As of the morning of Tuesday, January 28, his cash is in his InvestorLine account.

So in his case it took 26 days, or 18 business days including the Canada Post time, to transfer.

As I said earlier, don’t expect these things to happen quickly!

The Moral of the TFSA Transfer Story?

There’s no simple answer for how quickly your TFSA transfer will take place. There’s not even any simple way to check on the status of the transfer. We’ll wait another few weeks before calling InvestorLine to see if they have received the transfer request. Phoning now, during RRSP season, is not worth my time. (We didn’t need to phone.)

If you’re hoping to have cash in a specific account to catch a short term opportunity, beware. It takes time to move things from bank to bank. Plan ahead.

UPDATE: Please be aware that as of January 2015, Tangerine has started charging a fee if you transfer your RRSP or TFSA from Tangerine to another bank, credit union, brokerage or financial institution.

Given that change, I would no longer recommend the Kick Start program unless you plan to keep your TFSA money at Tangerine for the long term.

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