Rogers Communications Misses Me and Wants “the Opportunity to Earn Back My Business!”

Wow. A VP of Rogers Communications personally wants me to be a Rogers customer again. I know because he sent me a letter. Well, when I say “letter” I guess you might call it an ad on cardboard. And when I say “personally” I guess I should admit it’s addressed to “Resident” at my address not to my name. I’m not quite sure why it took him so long. After all, we cut our cable service in mid-2013, almost a year ago. It’s a very Canadian letter. It says, “We know you had your reasons for leaving Rogers.” Well, that’s certainly true. Having our cable costs increase 53% in fewer than 10 years was one of them. Another big one is that we weren’t getting any channels for that money that we watched that we couldn’t get for free using an Over the Air antenna. The letter continues by saying “If you’re at all open to reconsidering your decision, please let us know.” And it lists a toll-free number to call. Really. They think I want to phone them to chat about their various packages? Do they not remember that they told me I had to get a lawyer’s power of attorney before they would let me talk to them to cancel our cable service that was in my husband’s name? I did quickly check their website. They’re not advertising “pick your favourite 10 channels for $10.” Until they are, it’s highly unlikely I’ll be calling them. There are at least 2 other reasons, too:

1: What Rogers Spends Your $25-115 Internet Connection Fee On: Duct Tape and a Very Long Stick

Photo of Rogers Cable Up and Through Trees Look for the white duct tape tree then follow the cable up to the top left of the photo. In the neighbourhood where I walk to work, I’ve been watching white and black duct tape rings appearing on the trees. It’s not to repair ice storm damage or to trap Emerald Ash Borer larvae. It’s just Rogers “installing” and repairing its cable lines for high quality telephone, TV and internet access. Photo of Cable Up Tree Trunk That’s right. Their lauded service includes running a cable, probably coax by the look of it, from their in-ground box loosely across the grass, then up the nearest city-planted street tree. The cable is attached to the trunk with two bands of duct tape. Then it winds through the branches and arcs over to another tree, this one belonging to a homeowner. Then it arcs over again to the house it is servicing. Photo of Cable on Street Lamp I’m not at all sure the city knows that Rogers is using city street light poles for its cable. Yes, eventually Rogers will send someone out to properly run these cables underground. They will even slice through various homeowners’ asphalt (at the end of the driveway owned by the city) to do it. Based on last year, I expect them to get right on it in about 6 months. Photo of Cable on Grass Notice the artistic tripping hazard of the cable on top of the grass. Yes the ground has been thawed for two months, long before this loop was run. In the meantime, your high speed internet access and digital TV is at the mercy of lawnmowers, falling branches, passersby with some attitude and a hockey stick to reach high overhead, and your neighbour who might decide to take down the tree that is serving as a distribution pole. Photo of cable on grass and up tree Not my idea of “best in class” service. Rogers “fine print” says for their internet packages they charge: “a $14.95 one-time activation fee, and a one-time installation fee (Self $9.99; Basic $49.99; or Professional $99.99).” For their TV packages it says: “One-time installation fee of $49.99 may apply.” These prices were on their website on May 12, 2014. Photo of Cable Street Lamp At a Different Location

2: Rogers NETFLIX Speed Is Also Not a Plus

In a strange timing coincidence, there’s also an article on the CBCNews site today in which NETFLIX reports that the average download speed for Rogers customers was 1.67 Mbps. By comparison, Bell Fibe averaged 3.19 Megabits per second in April 2014. We don’t have a NETFLIX account although we’ve considered getting one eventually. If Fibe is really almost twice as fast as Rogers that would be an important factor in picking a data provider.

Sorry Mr. Perrotta but I Won’t Be Calling Soon

All things considered, I don’t expect to be giving Rogers the opportunity to earn back our business any time soon. Photo of Eastern Cottontail My relative’s pet rabbit loved chewing through the phone line inside the house: I hope this wild Cottontail doesn’t like Cable!

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ING Direct is Now Tangerine.ca: an Update on Tangerine in 2014

What is Tangerine.ca?

As I mentioned Tangerine is the new name for what used to be called ING Direct. They recently changed their website address to tangerine.ca. They also “refreshed” their website’s look. Personally, I don’t think they improved it much but it’s not significantly different in a good or bad way, which is good, right?

It Matters That ING Direct has Changed Its Name to Tangerine If You Have a Mortgage or Unmortgage

Because your home insurance policy and your municipal (property) tax department may have the name of the company owning your mortgage on their files, you need to tell them that your bank’s (mortgage’s) name has changed from ING Direct to Tangerine.
The name “unmortgage” has been changed to “Tangerine Mortgage.”

What Happened to my THRiVE Chequing Account?

Nothing has changed with anyone’s existing ING Direct THRiVE chequing account, except the name. They are now called Tangerine chequing accounts. (Which is easier to spell, admittedly.) You can still use your existing paper cheques and transfers will go through the same as they did before this change to the name used for advertising the accounts.

Cheques ordered in May 2014 and later will have the Tangerine name.

The savings account name has also been changed from the ING Direct investment Savings Account to a Tangerine Savings Account.

What Happened to the Streetwise Funds?

Similarly, the name has changed for the ING Direct mutual funds now they belong to Tangerine.

The word “Streetwise” in the title has been changed to “Tangerine.” For example, the Streetwise Balanced Fund is now called the Tangerine Balanced Fund, as of May 2014.

ING Streetwise Portfolios have been renamed Tangerine Investment Funds.

Where Can I Get Cash or Make a Deposit to my Tangerine Account?

Although they have updated their website and changed their URL, Tangerine/ING Direct are still working on changing which Automated Bank Machines you can use for free.

Tangerine (formerly ING Direct) customers have access to ABMs to make deposits and withdrawals to and from their Tangerine chequing accounts.

Tangerine customers who only have a savings account generally make their deposits to a bank account linked to Tangerine, then transfer the money into the account electronically. (In the past, I personally have mailed cheques in to ING Direct to be deposited in my savings account. I’m not clear if that is still an option because now I have a Tangerine chequing account, and I can deposit my cheques by taking a photo of them with my tablet and using the Cheque-In deposit app.)

Right now until September 29, 2014, customers can still use ABMs that belong to the Exchange Network for free. These machines are usually in credit unions or National Bank branches. You can find the location of these ABMS using the Tangerine website. https://secure.tangerine.ca/web/InitialTangerine.html?locale=en_CA&device=web&command=goToAbmLocator

You can, of course, also just use cash back when making a debit purchase at a store. Debit transactions are no-fee with Tangerine.

As of September 30, 2014, however, the ABMs customers can use will be switching. At that time, customers will have to use machines belonging to the Scotiabank ABM Network. For cash withdrawals, these include the ones at Scotiabank branches but also include some at Shell stations, 7-Eleven’s, Quickie convenience stores, Cineplex Theatres and Couche-Tard’s. For deposits including cheques customers will probably have to go to a Scotiabank branch ABM. In fact, customers should be able to start using these Scotiabank ABMs starting in June.

This switch in ABMs is annoying many customers in B.C. where the Exchange network is larger than the Scotiabank network. Tangerine is therefore still trying to find a way to improve what they offer.

Using International Bank Machines, ABMs. with Tangerine

Scotiabank belongs to the Global ATM Alliance. This means that Tangerine will not charge you a surcharge or access fee when you withdraw cash from nearly 50,000 machines in over 40 countries. There are sometimes fees charged by the international ABM’s bank, though, so check the details with Tangerine before you travel.

Withdrawing US Dollars from Tangerine

If you can get to a Tangerine ABM (there aren’t very many) you can withdraw US dollars from your US dollar Tangerine account.

Are Tangerine’s Fees Changing?

So far, Tangerine has not announced or admitted to any plans to increase any fees. To stay competitive with other e-banks such as President’s Choice Financial, they may decide to continue to offer many no-fee services.

NOTE: As of January 2015 Tangerine now charges a fee if you transfer your RRSP, RRIF or TFSA money to another financial institution. (You can still withdraw cash from your TFSA for free but remember not to contribute it/deposit it again until the next January 1 to avoid over-contributing and having to pay the CRA a fine.)

As of May 4, 2014, Tangerine.ca offers

  • unlimited free debit transactions
  • unlimited free cash withdrawals
  • unlimited free deposits
  • unlimited free transfers between an external linked bank account and your Tangerine account
  • unlimited free bill payments
  • no charges for using a cheque with your Tangerine chequing account but you have to buy the paper cheques

Is Tangerine Offering Any Bonuses or Promotions Right Now?

Today, May 4, 2014, Tangerine.ca is offering the following promotions and bonuses:

If you make a deposit into your existing

  • Savings account
  • RRSP investment savings account
  • TFSA investment savings account
  • RRIF investment savings account

which increases your total balance above what it was on April 7, then the amount that is above that April 7 total will earn interest at a rate of 2.5% per year, calculated on the balance at the end of each day, and paid monthly. The higher interest rate will only be paid until July 31, 2014.

UPDATE: In January 2015, Tangerine.ca is offering a similar deal for deposits made. The higher rate will only last until March 31 2015. Check their website for the details.

To try to make this clearer, if you have a TFSA, a Tangerine chequing account and 3 savings accounts at Tangerine, they will add up how much money in total was in all 5 accounts on April 7. They will then add the totals every day from April 8 to July 31. Every day where the daily total exceeds the daily total on April 7, they will pay bonus interest on the amount above the starting April 7 amount.

They had to make it that complicated because people love to game the system. They love to transfer money from one account to another to try to get bonus interest. Many people will even transfer money from one bank to another to try to get bonus interest.

For most of us, this bonus interest offer is not that important.

For example, if you could increase your total account balance at Tangerine by $1000 over the total on April 7, the most bonus interest you could earn, if you deposited the $1000 on April 8 and left it there till August 1, would be about
$1000 x (2.5/365)(23+31+30+31)= $7.88
(That’s just approximate. It’s not exactly how they calculate the interest but it’s close.)

So if you just sold your boat or got a major tax refund, it may be worth depositing the amount in your account. Of if you have $40 000 saved up for your next car at a different bank, and you were going to open a Tangerine account anyway now might be a good time to do that. But it’s not a huge incentive.

New Savings, TFSA, RRSP, and RRIF Account Bonus

There’s more money to be made if you decide to open a new Savings account at Tangerine before June 30 2014.

This only works if you have *never* had a savings account at ING Direct/Tangerine. They keep track even if you’ve closed an account there years ago. They include TFSA, RRSP and RRIF accounts as “savings” accounts. So if you had a TFSA account, and even if you’ve closed it years ago, you still can’t get a bonus for opening a new savings account today at Tangerine.

If you open your first Savings account with Tangerine.ca and if you put in at least $250, they will pay you a bonus of $50 within 30 days after you opened the account.

You can only get one bonus regardless of how many types of savings accounts you open.
E.g. you can get a bonus for opening one of

  • a Savings account
  • a TFSA account
  • a RRSP account
  • a RRIF savings account

but you can not get 4 bonuses for opening one of each.

New Tangerine Chequing Account Bonus

If you open your first chequing account ever, and if you put it at least $250, they will pay you a bonus of $50.

They keep track of whether you had a chequing account and closed it so you can’t get a bonus if you used to have a chequing account even if you closed it.

If you have a savings account only, though, you still can get a bonus for opening a chequing account. (That’s a bit unusual for Tangerine.ca promotions.)

NOTE that chequing accounts do not qualify for the 2.5% bonus interest rate promotion.

Direct Payroll Deposit Bonus

If you complete the paperwork to have your pay cheque deposited directly to your Tangerine Chequing Account by July 31, 2014, they will pay you a $50 cash bonus. You should read the details on this because they are a bit complicated.

Various people have tried to get this bonus for direct deposit on non-payroll money, such as an automated payment in from another bank account. It doesn’t work. They are only interested in paying the bonus for a real pay cheque being deposited regularly from an employer.

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