How to Buy a US Dollar GIC at Tangerine

We have some US dollars in a savings account at Tangerine, currently earning 0.6 % interest. We know our trip to the US to spend this money is a bit over a year away, though. So when I noticed Tangerine was currently offering 3.0% for a one-year non-redeemable US Dollar Guaranteed Investment Certificate, aka GIC, I decided to buy one.

Can I Redeem my US Dollar GIC at Tangerine Early if my Plans Change and I Need the Money?

No.

So be very sure you won’t need the money before you lock it up in a GIC. It will be stuck there until the GIC matures at the end of its term.

I know we won’t desperately need the money even if our plans change so I’m prepared to lock it in for a higher interest rate for a year.

What’s the Minimum US Dollar GIC Purchase at Tangerine?

As of November 22, 2018, the minimum size of the GIC is 10 US dollars.

What Do You Need to Have Nearby to Complete the USD GIC Purchase?

If you already have a Tangerine account, you won’t need anything.

If you don’t, you will need your banking details including your Social Insurance Number (SIN) for Tangerine to report your GIC interest to the CRA so you pay your taxes on it.

The process will be more complicated if you are not a Tangerine customer. This article only lists the steps needed for a customer with a US dollar Tangerine bank account, like me.

Buying a USD Guaranteed Investment Certificate at Tangerine If You Already Bank with Tangerine

  1. Go to the Tangerine website.
  2. Click on the Log Me In button and sign in to your account.
  3. Near the top of the screen, click on the link: Products
  4. Under the Saving column, click on the link: Guaranteed Investment
  5. Although it does not say US anywhere on it, under the heading Tangerine Guaranteed Investment (GIC) (Non-Redeemable) click on the button: Open an Account

The Confirm Accounts Step

A big messy screen is displayed listing everything from regular Canadian dollar GICs at the top, to Chequing Accounts, HELOCs, Credit Cards, and way way down almost at the bottom:
US$ Guaranteed Investment (GIC)

  1. Read through the details. If desired, click on the Learn More button.
  2. Click on the button: Add
  3. It appears nothing has happened—but it has!
    Way down at the bottom of the screen, you will see a message
    2 Account(s) added.
    Scroll way up to the top of the page.
    If it says Guaranteed Investment (GIC), click on the button: Remove.
    That one was there because when I clicked on the choice Guaranteed Investment it started a regular Canadian dollar one for me, which I didn’t want.
    You should be left with only a
    US$ Guaranteed Investment (GIC) under the heading
    Account(s) you’re opening
  4. When that’s all that is listed, click on the Next button.

The Confirm Information Step

  1. Read through and review your information is correct.
  2. If it is ok, click on the Next button.
  3. Read the information presented. Notice to make the GIC a joint one you will have to PHONE in!
    Click on the Next button.

The Set up Account Step

  1. Read and answer the Third Party Information & Intended Use question.
    I clicked on No.
  2. From the drop-down list, answer the question What is the Intended Use of this Account?
  3. Read through the US$ Guaranteed Investment (GIC) Account Terms.
    If they are acceptable, click to check the box beside them.
  4. Read through the documents electronically information.
    If it is acceptable, click to check the box beside them.
  5. Click on the Next button.
  6. From the drop-down list select the term for the GIC noting that you will NOT be able to get your money back until the end of that term.
    The interest rate for that term will be offered.
  7. Click to select at maturity to
    Reinvest the original amount in a GIC with the same term
    Or
    Payout the original amount in case to a selected account
  8. Click to select to
    Pay the interest back into the GIC annually to keep earning more interest
    Or
    Pay the interest annually into a selected account.
  9. Click on the Next button.
  10. If you are depositing the matured GIC into a bank account, click to select the account to pay it into, or click to open a new USD savings account.
  11. If you are depositing the interest into a bank account, click to select the account to pay it into. Note if you select a Canadian $ account, Tangerine will convert the USD to Canadian before depositing them.
  12. In the text box, type the amount of US $ you want to deposit in the GIC. You will not be able to get at those $$ again until the GIC matures at the end of its term.
    This is a non-redeemable GIC.
    The minimum is $10.
    As usual, note that CDIC does not insure US$ GICs or US$ savings accounts.
  13. Click on the Next button.
  14. If you’d like to buy the US$ GIC now, click on the Now button, otherwise
    Click on the In the Future button and set the date to buy the GIC.
  15. Review the details of your GIC purchase.
    Interesting to note
    They MAY allow early redemption if an application is approved for hardship reasons.
    If you do choose to have the GIC automatically renew for the same term when it matures, you will have 30 days after that to change your mind and cash it out.
  16. If it all looks ok, click on the Submit button.

The Wrap Up Step

  1. Make a note of the information about your GIC purchase.
  2. If you want to have a joint owner for the GIC, phone in to Tangerine.
  3. Click on the Done button.
    It may take you back to the “Add an Account” page.
  4. If you are finished banking, Log Out of your accounts. For increased security close your browser session and clear your cache.

Can I Have a Joint Owner on a Tangerine US Dollar GIC?

Yes. But you will have to set it up as a single owner, then PHONE IN to get the second owner listed.

And worse yet, you both have to phone in, either at the same time, or the secondary owner can phone in after the person who bought the GIC phones in. What a pain!

In each case, the person phoning in will need to know

  • their own client number
  • the co-owners client number and
  • the purpose of the GIC purchase as selected when the GIC was purchased

Hint: Make sure that the person who will be paying the tax on the interest earned is the primary holder if you want the T slips to be easier to work with come tax time.

Personally, I think that having this phone in step required is not a great design. It took me 15 minutes on hold (from 11 38 till 11 53 a.m. on a Thursday) to try to add my husband as co-owner to my GIC–and then I found out he will also have to phone in!

Overall, though, I’m glad I bought the GIC. It has increased the interest rate on that money from 0.6% to 3.0% for a year. That should be enough to buy one of us a flip flop when the time comes to spend it!

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Is My Money In Savings Accounts and GICs At Simplii Financial Protected by CDIC Insurance?

Simplii Financial is the new name for what used to be called President’s Choice Financial. It’s also a somewhat new business and is owned and run by CIBC. Recently I read a question about what kind of CDIC insurance Simplii Financial offered on cash deposits and guaranteed investment certificates so I decided to check.

Be Careful Of the Insurance Maximums If You Have Money at CIBC and Money at Simplii Financial

First, deposits at Simplii Financial are insured by the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation, CDIC.

HOWEVER, the limit of $100 000 we’re all so used to reading applies to any money you have in that type of account at both CIBC and Simplii Financial, because they are both insured under one policy.

For example,

we have

  • a joint CIBC chequing account
  • a joint Simplii Financial chequing account
  • a joint Simplii Financial savings account

We are only insured up to $100 000 deposited in total in those accounts. If we bought any regular GICs at CIBC or Simplii Financial, those would also be insured only if the total of the 3 bank accounts and all of the GICs was $100 000 or less.

Because CDIC treats your money the same if it’s at CIBC or at Simplii Financial, which is part of CIBC, you may want to make sure you understand the maximums and don’t exceed them if you bank with both institutions.

Are Tangerine and ScotiaBank Accounts Insured Together To One CDIC Maximum Also?

No.

I checked whether this was also the case with Tangerine. After all the Bank of Nova Scotia bought out Tangerine.

But no, they have separate CDIC insurance. So you can reach the $100 000 limit on, say a savings account at ScotiaBank and also reach the $100 000 limit on another savings account at Tangerine and you will be insured separately to the full amount on each of them.

We don’t bank with BNS so we never checked this before. I’m glad I learned about the limits on CIBC/Simplii Financial though. It’s unlikely I’d ever have more than $100 000 in the two banks but better to know now that find out the hard way later that we’re not fully insured!

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