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How Soon Does a Cheque Deposited at CIBC Appear in an Account At PC Financial?

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My most recent test of the slowness on inter-bank transfers was a test of how long it would take for a cheque deposited into a CIBC bank machine to appear as a deposit to a PC Financial bank account.

Why Would I Deposit a Cheque for PC Financial at CIBC?

PC Financial services are provided by the direct banking division of CIBC.

For us, there is no Loblaws or other branch of PC Financial nearby. However, a CIBC branch is within cycling distance of home. So it makes sense to deposit cheques at the CIBC machine rather than at a PCF machine.

Curiously, you can deposit cheques into a CIBC account using an app and taking a photo with your device, but you can’t yet do that for your PC Financial account. (You can deposit cheques using the Tangerine photo app.)

Why Would It Matter How Fast the Cheque Lands In My PC Financial Account?

Well, if you need the money from the cheque to pay your rent this month, it could matter a great deal!

In our case, we were trying to take advantage of a short-term interest rate bonus offered by PC Financial on new Savings deposits. The promotion stated the money had to be in our savings account by September 30, 2014. If it wasn’t, it wouldn’t earn any extra interest.

How Our Test Went for the Deposit of the Cheque at CIBC for PC Financial

We deposited a cheque into a CIBC bank machine located inside a branch at 15:58 (synchronize you watch, Jim!) on Monday, September 8, 2014.

The money appeared in our PC Financial chequing account balance on that same day: Monday September 8, 2014 before 20:53 pm which was the first time I checked our account.

I tested this again on Tuesday. A cheque deposited before 9 a.m. was posted to our account before noon.

Next Step: Testing How Long to Transfer the Money from our Chequing Account to our Savings Account

We then had to transfer the money into our PC Financial Savings account. We started the transfer on Monday September 8, 2014 at 20:55. The money appeared in our Savings account instantaneously!

Yet when we tried to repeat that on Tuesday, it wouldn’t accept the immediate transfer.

Why?

Well because the first cheque deposited was so small that it did not need to go “on hold.” The second cheque was more substantial so it is “on hold” and cannot be transferred to our savings account until it clears. However I’ve since clarified with PC Financial that an increased balance in the No Fee chequing account will also earn the 3.1% promotional interest rate, so I guess there’s no hurry to transfer it to our Savings account.

If you transfer from your Savings to your Chequing account at PC Financial, the fastest you can expect is an over night transfer as the program will not let you request a transfer on the same date. This is different than at Tangerine and frankly I find it very annoying.

But when you transfer from chequing to savings at PCF, it can happen immediately. Good stuff!

Unfortunately, your money may be “on hold” if you deposit a large cheque. Not such good stuff….but it may not actually matter depending what you need to do with the money.

The Conclusion

So in one afternoon and evening, I managed to deposit a cheque into our PC Financial chequing account using a CIBC branch bank machine, then transfer it that same day from our PCF chequing account into our PCF savings account. That means that as of tomorrow, we will start earning the 3.1% short-term bonus rate on our incremental savings.

And I will not have to wait till the larger cheque comes “off hold” before it will start earning the higher promotional interest rate because for this particular promotion it also applies to new funds deposited to the No Fee chequing account provided that increases our total deposited money above the amount we had on September 5.

So a mixture of win/delayed-win.

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How to Deposit a Cheque by Taking a Photo Using the Tangerine (ING Direct) App

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Recently ING Direct, now called Tangerine,  introduced Canada to a banking feature that has been in use in the USA for years. By using an app on your smart phone, iPad or iPod, you can send a photo of a cheque to ING. They will then deposit the cheque just as if you popped it into a bank machine or the mail. I decided to try it and see how it would work to deposit a dividend cheque into my ING Direct Tangerine THRIVE account using our iPad.

First of all, for those who think we dropped the big bucks on an iPad, let me clarify that my husband won it at a mandatory work charity golf tournament. For those who know his golfing technique, yes this is totally true. Ask him for the details. But I’m very glad he won it because without it this article could not have been written.

Read the General Information about Tangerine’s Cheque-In App

You can read up on this new way to deposit cheques on the Tangerine website at http://www.ingdirect.ca/en/landingpage/chequein/index.html
https://www.tangerine.ca/en/ways-to-bank/mobile-banking/index.html#cheque-in
and http://www.ingdirect.ca/en/landingpage/chequein/faq.html.
https://www.tangerine.ca/en/faq/ways-to-bank/mobile/index.html

NOTE:

  • You can only deposit Canadian cheques written in Canadian dollars at this time (October 2013.)
  • You don’t need to endorse the cheque.
  • You can deposit a maximum of $20,000 per day.

Get the Tangerine Mobile Banking App

First you will have to download and install the Tangerine mobile banking app on your smart phone, tablet, iPad or iPod. They have an app for Windows 8 devices (all five of you should be happy!), Android devices, Blackberrys, and some tablets.

You’ll need a recent version of the app to get the cheque depositing feature and you’ll need a device with a camera with good resolution.

Depositing a Cheque with the Tangerine Mobile Banking App

Once you’ve installed the Tangerine mobile banking app, you will also have installed their new Cheque-In feature.

I tested this new feature using an iPad. There may be slight differences in how the app works on different devices. Sorry!

Log In To Mobile Banking

  1. On your iPad, tap on the Tangerine icon.
  2. In the Log me in field, type your Tangerine client number, card number or username.
    If necessary, tap on the Go button.
  3. If applicable, in the Your Secret Question field, type the answer to your personal question, then tap on the Next button.
  4. In the Your PIN field type your personal identification number then tap on the Next button.
  5. Read the Location Capture Terms of Use and if you agree, tap on the I Accept button.

Start the Cheque-In Feature

  1. At the bottom of the I’m a Client, let me in! screen, is an icon called Deposit.
    Tap on the icon.
  2. Read the info about Cheque-in Deposit.
    Tap on Get Started Now
  3. Read the Terms of Use and if they seem ok to you, tap on Yes, I Agree.

Deposit the Cheque Using Cheque-In

  1. From the Select Account, tap on the right facing arrow and choose the account into which you wish to deposit the cheque.
  2. In the Enter Amount $ field, type the amount of the cheque and tap on the Done key on your keyboard.
  3. To Take pictures of your cheque, tap on the cheque side Front button.
    1. Read the Image Tips, then tap on Continue OR tap on OK, don’t display again
    2. Tap on the Camera icon to take the photo.
    3. If it’s even slightly unclear, tap on the Retake button.
    4. If it’s crisp with no shadows, tap on the Use Picture button at the top right of the screen.
  4. Tap on the cheque side Back button.
  5. Repeat the photo taking as above, A-D.
  6. When you have an image you like, tap on the Next button.
    It will spin a circle stating Processing Cheque.
  7. If the deposit information looks correct, tap on Deposit Cheque.
  8. You will receive a confirmation message with a number.
    KEEP the cheque!
  9. IF you’re done, tap on the Logout button.

Tangerine should send you an email message with an hour or two stating that it has received your request and asking you to hold on to your paper cheque.

When Can I Get Rid of the Paper Cheque?

Now you have to wait. According to various users on RedFlagDeals (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/has-anyone-been-able-use-ing-direct-cheque-deposit-deposit-mbna-sc-check-1374213/)  not all cheque photos will be accepted by Tangerine. If the photo is unclear, they will tell you and you will have to start over again or deposit the cheque at a bank machine or by mail. So do not dispose of the cheque yet!

I received confirmation that my cheque images had been accepted 4 business days after I sent them in. That confirmation, sent by email, requested that I dispose of the original cheque, preferably by shredding it.

How Fast Is the Cheque Deposited?

In my test case, the cheque was not fully deposited until the images had been confirmed 4 business days after I sent them in. I started earning interest the day I made the deposit, however.

I don’t know how long the funds for the cheque might have been kept “on hold” because they don’t put a hold on small amounts due to my account balance. You’d have to phone Tangerine and ask what rules would apply to your account before making a deposit of a cheque.

What Didn’t I Like About Depositing a Cheque using Cheque-In?

I did discover that I don’t like trying to take crisp, unshadowed photos of cheques using an iPad. It’s a bit heavy and bulky for me to use. I think I would be happier using an iPod.

For some reason I didn’t particularly like having the cheque around the house while I waited to see if it processed properly. That’s odd because it would have taken me a day or two to bother taking it to the bank machine anyway!

I was hoping I’d be able to see the cheque image in my account history after the deposit was complete but it does not seem like I can. I only see a line item stating I made a deposit on a certain day for a certain amount using Cheque-In.

What Did I Like About Depositing a Cheque Using Cheque-In?

It was fast and simple. No driving, walking or biking required.

Would I use it again? Yes.

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