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What Is the Best Rate I Can Get Right Now (January 2017) for My Cash In a Savings Account?

Posted on 2017 01 09 by BetCrooks

We are saving again, this time to replace the roof and furnace sometime in the next two to three years. This is money in addition to our emergency fund: although if the furnace conked out or the shingles blew off, it might be an emergency but the spending to replace both is really a planned expense. Our emergency fund is largely at Oaken Financial in a series of GICs, one of which matures each month ready to cover our budget if we suddenly have no income. This planned expense money, though, could be saved any where. So I decided to shop around and see where I could get a high interest rate for our cash in a no fee daily interest savings account.

Today’s Interest Rate Offers for No Fee Savings Accounts

Here are the rates I found for regular no-fee savings accounts on January 9 2017:

  • EQ Bank 2%
  • Alterna Bank 1.95% *
  • Oaken Financial 1.5%
  • Tangerine 0.8%
  • PC Financial 0.8%

* I haven’t used Alterna Bank so I’m not aware of all the details of their business. You can read about them on the RedFlagDeals personal finance forum. They are CDIC insured which is very important to me for any eBank.

What Special Short Term Promotional Rates Are Offered for Savings in January 2017?

There are some promotions going on.

Tangerine is offering

  • certain customers up to 3.25% on their savings from January 5 – March 31 2017. But it’s not offering the rate to everyone and there isn’t much information on why some people are getting the higher rate.
  • 2% to some customers who phone in and request the higher rate, if they threaten to transfer out large balances, offer to transfer in large balances, or ask based on high usage of Tangerine products such as paying bills and having a mortgage. Not all customers who ask get the higher rate.
  • 1.9% for the first six months to customers opening their first account ever with Tangerine or ING Direct Canada who open only a Savings account
  • 2.4% for the first six months to customers opening their first account ever with Tangerine or ING Direct Canada who open both a Savings and a Chequing account

Could they make this any more confusing?!

PC Financial is offering some customers 1.5% on their savings from January 1 – March 31, 2017. It is not offering that rate to everyone and there isn’t much info on how to get this higher rate.

It’s Tricky to Get the Best Rate for Your Savings Account

The problem is that several of the major e-Banks like Tangerine and PC Financial have switched to offering short-term promotional higher interest rates and only to some customers.

For example, right now, I have an offer from January 5-March 31 2017 from Tangerine for 3.25% on my savings account deposits. My husband, however, has no special offer from Tangerine! He did get offered 1.5% from PC financial for those three months, though.

Some of the Big 5 Canadian Banks (BMO, CIBC, RBC, Scotia, and TD) also come out with short-term higher rates, often linked with opening a new account. Because these are not, generally, no fee accounts, I’m not including them here. A few fees can quickly use up any additional money earned in interest payments!

Where Should I Park My Cash for Three to Six Months While I Wait To Buy My House?

This question gets asked a lot. If you’ve got less than a year until you’re going to buy your home, even though interest rates are painfully low, you’d do better to keep your cash in a savings account. A cashable GIC is unlikely to offer you a better rate and a regular GIC cannot be cashed until it matures. Yes, it would be great to make thousands of dollars by investing in rising stocks but it would be horrible to lose thousands if stocks drop and you have no way of predicting which way they will go.

If you are going to keep your cash in a savings account, though, make sure you get as much interest as you can. It will be taxable but it will still help reduce the impact of inflation on your savings. If your savings are large, be willing to spend an hour or two opening new no-fee bank accounts, if necessary, to get a significantly better rate.

I Don’t Want to Open a Bunch of Bank Accounts: Where Can I Put My Money and Leave It at a Good Rate?

Many people don’t want a series of bank accounts. It’s just too much hassle to open them and to keep track of them.

For those people I’d suggest considering

  • A local credit union, if one has a good long-lasting rate
  • Oaken Financial, which has been keeping its savings rate steady for a long period of time
  • EQ Bank, which is currently the highest rate of the e-Banks that doesn’t offer different rates to different customers when they phone in, but which has dropped its rate twice in 2016 without much forewarning

I wouldn’t suggest Tangerine or PC Financial unless you want both your savings and your chequing accounts at the same bank. Both of these two like to only offer a low regular interest rate, which is 0.8% on January 9 2017, and then offer promotional rates to only some customers for 3-6 months at a time. If you only want a savings account, and you don’t want to track whether you’re maximizing your interest rate by phoning in for promotions, I would stick with a credit union, Oaken or EQ.

What are these paying today, January 9 2017?

  • Oaken Financial: 1.5%
  • EQ Bank: 2%
  • Credit Unions: Vary

What Am I Doing With Our Roof Fund?

Well, since right now I can get 3.25% at Tangerine until the end of March 2017, that’s where the roof money will be parked. What I’ll do in April, though, is hard to say!

Related Reading

  • How to Open a Chequing Account at Tangerine
  • How to Open a Savings Account at Oaken Financial
  • How to Open a Savings Account at EQ Bank

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Posted in Finances, Money Tips | Tagged Alterna Bank, cash, daily interest savings account, daily interest savings accounts, EQ Bank, HISA, Oaken Financial, PC Financial, rates, savings, Tangerine

If I Keep 50% of My Portfolio in Fixed Income What and Where Do I Keep It?

Posted on 2016 11 22 by BetCrooks

As I mentioned in another article, I don’t believe I can guess which way the equity markets are moving. So I rely on keeping a fairly fixed percentage in equities and in fixed income investments. That forces me to “buy low” whenever the markets drop and to “sell high” whenever they are surging upwards. Being very, very conservative, though, I keep about 50% of my portfolio in fixed income investments although where I keep it varies from year to year.

Are GICs are Great Investment? Where Did I Keep My Fixed Income in the 1980s?

I’ve heard many people dismiss the value of having a GIC in the 1980s when interest rates got frighteningly high because they said that inflation was also ridiculously high. I’m not so sure. All I know for sure is that the RRSP money I put in GICs in those years earned 9-15%. I’m not at all convinced that my *personal* rate of inflation in those years was 7-13%. In fact, my rent, which was my greatest cost, dropped twice due to oil patch layoffs and a need to keep paying tenants happy.

Nowadays, of course, it’s difficult to get a GIC paying even 3%. That doesn’t mean I’ve abandoned them though. I keep some of our emergency fund in a rotating series of 1-year GICs—each month 1/12 of the emergency fund GICs mature. If we still have jobs, I re-invest the money for another 12 months. I’m doing that because (a) it keeps the money out of sight so it doesn’t get accidentally spent (b) it helps if interest rates fall instead of rise in that 12 month period and (c) it ensures we would have enough money each month for a year to pay our essential costs.

I also keep some of our fixed income money in our retirement accounts in GICs. I used to keep quite a bit, but now that we have a non-registered investment account balance growing as well (because our TFSAs and RRSPs are maxed out) I’m keeping some of our fixed income dollars in the non-registered part of our portfolio, so that I can try to save the most tax. It’s tricky to decide where to keep which assets!

What About Bonds and Bond Funds? Am I Investing Any of My Fixed Income In Bonds?

For well over 5 years, everyone has told us to get out of our PH&N Bond Fund. I’m glad that so far we haven’t. Although there was one year (2015) when we lost 1.2% rather than gained anything on it, we’ve made a good return all of the other years, including 2016. Instead of selling our entire position, I just keep selling off a chunk each year to remove the growth of the fund and re-invest it elsewhere. For example, if I had 100,000 in the fund on January 1, and on March 17 it was worth 107,000, I would sell enough units to get $7 000 cash, which I invest elsewhere. I’ve done this “gains harvesting” 8 times in the last 5 years. I’m also have not invested any new money in this fund since 2010.

Other analysts recommend that if you are going to invest in a Bond fund, you should pick one that buys and holds bonds to maturity, not one that plays with Bonds, buying and selling them to try to make capital gains. If you buy units in a fund that holds the bonds to maturity, and if the term to maturity is short (say 1-3 years) you don’t have to worry about a huge decrease in the value of your investment. You might have to accept, though, a quite low return on your investment.

Historically, many people bought actual individual bonds or their coupons as investments. What commission you are paying on the purchase, though, is not transparent, and most financial institutions aren’t offering great prices for small buyers. If the value of an individual bond suits your needs, by all means buy it, but for me, it’s not worth the time to find a good deal.

Real Estate Investment Trusts, REITS, are NOT Fixed Income

I recently read someone say that they had invested their Fixed Income dollars into REITs. Sorry but that is NOT a fixed income investment. REITs can provide a good source of income but they are a type of equity. If their business struggles, the share price of the REIT can fall dramatically. They are also risky if interest rates start to climb, according to some analysts, because the often depend on borrowing money directly or on their tenants borrowing money.

I own some units of REITs but I count them in my Equity column, not my Fixed Income column.

Only Some Preferred Shares Offer Fixed Income

I only tried investing in Preferred Shares once. When the share price started to drop a bit, I got very nervous. I realized with the type of preferred I had purchased, I could lose money: if interest rates rose, the dividend would not seem high enough to justify the capital cost per share so someone would only buy my shares if I sold them at a lower price per share. I waited till the shares re-bounded to generate a small profit and sold them.

From what I’ve read so far, some preferred shares should be considered Equity and a very few could be considered Fixed Income. I don’t claim to understand them well enough to make a recommendation for or against investing Fixed Income in Preferreds. I have chosen not to, for now.

High Interest Savings Accounts Can Provide a Reasonable Fixed Income Return

Surprisingly, I’ve made a decent rate of return on my fixed income investments held in High Interest Savings Accounts, HISAs. In particular, I have been able to keep some of our non-registered money bouncing around between Tangerine, PC Financial, EQ Bank, Oaken Financial and others to ensure it earns at least 1.7% and often up to 3.1%.
Unfortunately, that interest is taxable. Still it helps keep the money at close to not losing ground against inflation. And it’s very easy to move the money—it just takes a few clicks of a mouse.

HISAs inside our brokerage accounts at BMO InvestorLine, CIBC Investor’s Edge, and RBC Direct Investing pay much less. Currently, they are paying about 0.5%. It’s still better than leaving it as “cash” in your account and earning nothing, but it’s not keeping up with inflation.

No Easy Answers for Fixed Income Investing

Between GICs, HISAs and the Bond fund, I’m averaging about 3-4% a year return before tax on my fixed income investments. (That’s why I’m staying in the Bond Fund.) It’s not much but it is probably almost keeping up with inflation.

It does mean that my true growth in the year has to come from the 50% of my investments in the equity markets. That is quite a responsibility for some stocks and index funds to provide. It’s been fine for the past few years because the capital value of our equities has been growing and many of them pay growing dividends. If we move into a “bear” or declining market, though, without interest rates improving, things could get painful quickly.
I don’t’ see any way that I am going to be able to control the market direction or interest rates, though, so I’ll continue with my asset allocation plan, re-balance regularly, and hope for the best!

Related Reading

  • How to Open an Account at Oaken Financial
  • How to Open an Account at EQ Bank
  • How to Open an Account at Tangerine
  • How to Open an Account at PC Financial

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