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How to Transfer Money into Your PC Financial No Fee Bank Account

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When we opened our PC Financial joint chequing account, we also applied to link the account to our joint chequing account at one of the Big 5 Canadian banks. After some confusion because they linked the accounts but the only for my Husband we eventually could both transfer money to and from the two chequing accounts. Here’s how to transfer money into your PC Financial no fee chequing account from another bank.

This article is obsolete as of November, 2015 and has been replaced by:

How to Transfer Money Between Your PC Financial Account and Another Bank Account

Sign In to your PC Financial Bank Accounts

  1. Go to http://www.pcfinancial.ca/
  2. Make sure Online Banking is selected from the drop down list in the top right corner of the screen, then
    Click the Go button.
  3. In the Card Number field, type the number on your ABM card.
  4. In the Password field, type the password you set up for online banking.
  5. Click on the Sign In button.

To Transfer Cash from your Bank to PC Financial

  1. From the link list on the left side of the screen, click on: transfers
  2. From the drop-down list, select from which account to take the money.
    • For example, I selected our Big 5 chequing account.
    • NOTE: you cannot see how much money you have in your account except for your PC Financial account. You might need to update your passbook or check your balance some other way to make sure how much money you have before making a transfer.
  3. From the drop-down list, select to which account the money should be deposited.
    • For example, I selected our PC Financial no-fee chequing account.
    • I could also have selected our PC Financial savings account.
    • Because this is a PC Financial account, it does show the current balance in the account.
  4. In the How much? field, type the amount you want to transfer.
  5. From the drop-down list, select How Often to make the transfer.
    • I selected Once.
    • Choices include:
      • Once;
      • Every week;
      • Every two weeks;
      • Once a month;
      • Every 3 months;
      • Every 6 months;
      • Once a year.
  6. In the When? Field, select the month and type the day and year.
    Or select the date from a Calendar by clicking on the icon.
  7. Read the warning notes.
    For example, the account balances shown for the PCF accounts include funds on hold that may not be able to be transferred.
  8. Click on the continue button.
    • If, like me, you left the date as today’s date, you will get a rejection message that states:
    • “The transfer date is invalid. The transfer date must be dated at least one day in the future. Funds transferred to and from another financial institution usually take 1 to 2 business days to process.”
    • Don’t ask why it waited till this point to reject my request. Anyway I changed the date to tomorrow and clicked on the Continue button again.
  9. On the Transfers – before you finish screen, review the details.
    • In particular if you have several bank accounts make sure the correct account numbers are selected.
    • Read the warnings about Holds placed on the incoming funds and delays.

    Click on the set up transfer button.

  10. Copy the Confirmation screen or make a note of the Reference number if desired for future needs.
  11. If you are finished banking,
    1. At the top right of the screen, click on the Sign Out button.
    2. Click on the OK button.
    3. Close your browser to increase the security of your banking information.

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Never Underestimate the, er, Narrow-Focused Thinking of a Bank, Especially Online

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Never Underestimate the Stupidity, er, Narrow-Focused Thinking of a Bank, Especially Online

Not that long ago, my Husband and I (no, I’m not Queen Elizabeth, but it’s ok to read that part in her bitten-off high-pitched voice, I always do) opened a joint no fee chequing account at President’s Choice Financial. Because we wanted to open it with the least delay, we filled out the applications at the kiosk at a grocery store. Most of the procedure went well but here’s the exception.

Linking Our PC Financial No Fee Chequing Account to our Big 5 Chequing Account

To facilitate transfers from yet another no fee joint chequing account, this one at one of the Big 5 Canadian banks, we filled out a form at the PC Financial “office” at our local grocery store. So we were attempting to link two joint chequing accounts together. Sounds relatively simple, right?

Well apparently not. About two weeks after we applied, we received a form in the mail to sign and send back authorizing the link. We’d already filled out what was either the same form or a very similar one while at the kiosk. We’d also already spoken with “head office” about the link while we were at the kiosk. Anyway, we assumed they’d screwed up decided they needed additional information, so my husband completed the form and signed it and I mailed it back. (At least they provided a postage-paid envelope.)

It is important to note, at this point, that my husband did all of these steps both at the kiosk and on the mail-in form. PC Financial has to set a “principal bank account owner” on joint  accounts, and we agreed to make him the principal. So I did not speak to anyone at head office or sign any forms.

Another few weeks passed. I kept checking whether I could transfer to the other bank. Nothing. I began to wonder whether I should phone to find out why.

Then a light bulb went off.

PC Financial Uses Your Debit Card Number Not Your Account Number for Signing In

When you sign in to your PC Financial no fee chequing account using online banking, you use the number on your ABM card as your account number. You don’t actually use the bank account number.

This is kind of odd because in the case of a joint account, like ours, we each have ABM cards with different numbers.

So I decided, out of curiousity, and a healthy dose of suspicion, to have my husband sign in to the PC Financial system using HIS card.

PC Financial Did Not Link Joint Accounts Jointly

Sure enough, the JOINT accounts are linked when we access the JOINT bank account with HIS card. ONLY.

Does this strike anyone else as stupid?!

Computers are Dangerous Because They Do EXACTLY What We Tell Them to Do

I’ve been around long enough (remember Fortran 77?!) to know the principal danger of computers is that they do exactly what we tell them to do. They do not say “Hey, that sounds like a stupid idea. I bet you really want me to do this, right?” They just follow their code.

So this inability of me to transfer money from my joint account to my joint account using my ABM card isn’t really a sign of stupidity on the part of PC Financial. It’s a sign of a computer being programmed to do one thing and only that one thing. (We won’t ask out loud, though, about the programming team that set up the code this way. I’ll be generous and assume that all programming decisions were made by a committee, and we all know what happens then.)

Stay Tuned for Further Episodes in this Ongoing Saga

So I guess my next step is to call or write PC Financial to find out how *I* can get the two accounts linked so I can make transfers when I sign on.

CAUTION! Don’t Share your PC Financial Password Even with your Wife (or Husband)

Why, you might ask, don’t I just sign in under my husband’s ABM number to transfer the money? Because according to the brochure “Legal stuff” PC Financial gave us when opening the account, if I do, PC Financial will hold him responsible for ANY fraudulent activity in the account whether I am committing the fraud or whether his card gets compromised at a bank machine or grocery store!

Here’s the actual quote:
“If losses occur by bank machine or Interac Direct Payment
You will be responsible for ALL losses if

  • you authorize anyone else to use your card, PIN, password or the answers to your personal verification questions”

Note it doesn’t say that the loss has to result from the activities of the same person to whom you told the password.

Wish me luck on getting transfer access myself.

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