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What Could or Should a Teenager Do to Invest in a Tax Free Savings Account, TFSA?

Posted on 2017 02 07 by BetCrooks

My teenaged relative who has his first job and his first no-fee chequing account for direct deposit of his pay will soon be eligible to open his first TFSA as well. I doubt very much that he will listen to me or even ask me what type of TFSA he should consider but I’ll write this down now just in case he reads my website. (Not likely!) So here are some suggestions for how a teenager could or should be use a Tax Free Savings Account, or TFSA.

Everyone Needs Some Cash Savings For Emergencies

Recently on RedFlagDeals, someone asked who would ever pay $20 to borrow $300 or use one of the many payday loan sharks ***. Many people added their opinions including one person who said it’s very easy to end up too short of cash to handle a $300 emergency. That led to even more comments.

Basically, it’s true that if at all humanly possible you should try to have some cash savings for emergencies. Life happens. Often.

This morning, my car started making an odd faint squealing noise when making certain turns. It could need new brakes. It could need a wheel alignment. It could be nothing. Just getting it checked out will likely cost close to that fictitious $300 much less getting any needed work done. The zipper on my child’s boot broke, too. And there’s a draft around the front door suggesting we need to replace either the caulking or the weather-stripping or both. Rent goes up. Bell just jacked up the rates for the internet again.

So my first suggestion for a teenager who is now eligible to open their first TFSA, at 18 in most provinces and 19 in some, is to save up your first $5500 in cash.

(If a teenager already has more than $5500 in cash savings, they should read ahead: higher earning investments should be sheltered in the TFSA and emergency cash can be kept in a regular non-registered savings account.)

Where Should I Keep My Cash TFSA Account?

Banks both like and dislike TFSA cash savings accounts. They have figured out that they can charge you a painful transfer out fee if you decide to move your cash from their TFSA to another bank’s TFSA. They set those transfer out fees so high that you lose any yearly profit if you move a small balance to try to get a better interest rate somewhere else.

Banks dislike these accounts, though, because you can get around the transfer out fee once a year. If you get fed up with the interest rate at your bank, you can withdraw your TFSA cash during the last few business days in December. Then, in January of the next year, you can deposit it elsewhere. (You can’t deposit it right away in December if you have already made your maximum allowable contribution to your TFSA. But the amount withdrawn in previous years gets added to your contribution room for future years so you can re-deposit the same amount in January as it is the beginning of the next year.)

Check details of any bank TFSA carefully before opening an account. Some might charge you if your TFSA balance drops to or nearly to, 0, or if you close your account. That could make it expensive to move your TFSA cash to another bank for a better interest rate.

OK, so where are some reasonable places to keep your emergency cash in a daily interest TFSA savings account?

  • Many credit unions offer reasonable interest rates and rules
  • Tangerine. It offers, as of February 2017, 0.8% a year on cash savings in a TFSA, sometimes with a month or two of higher interest for new contributions. Tangerine charges a $45 fee (as of February 2017) to transfer your cash out of your TFSA to another bank. You can withdraw it for free but you can’t contribute it elsewhere until the next January 1, unless you have enough remaining unused contribution room.
  • PC Financial. It offers, as of February 2017, 0.8% a year on cash savings in a TFSA, sometimes with a month or two of higher interest for new contributions. PC Financial charges a $50 fee to transfer your cash out of your TFSA to another bank. You can withdraw it for free but you can’t contribute it elsewhere until the next January 1, unless you have enough remaining unused contribution room.

Oaken Financial offers, as of February 2017, TFSA GICs but not a TFSA cash savings account. If you don’t mind locking up your money in a GIC for at least 12 months, they offer good rates. In February, 2017, they are offering 1.75% for a one year GIC. NOTE: You can NOT get your money out until the GIC matures one year after you purchase it. This is not a “cashable” GIC.

If I Don’t Pay Any Tax Why Bother With a TFSA?

Many teenagers don’t earn enough money to pay any income tax. That can make it seem pointless to keep their cash in a TFSA. Any interest they earn on their cash in a regular savings account is also “tax free” if their combined income from work, interest and any other sources of income is less than their deductions including the basic personal amount.
I’d still suggest opening a TFSA.

If you set aside your “emergency” money in the TFSA it may reduce the urge to spend it on regular entertainment expenses.

It can also be the beginning of longer-term savings strategy.

You can always withdraw cash from a savings account TFSA as long as you remember you cannot always put it back in until the following January 1. So if you get a great interest rate offer on your regular savings account, you could always pull the cash out of your TFSA and take advantage of that rate.

It usually doesn’t take long to start earning enough to have to pay tax. When you do, be sure to start a TFSA.

When Should I Start Investing in a TFSA?

A cash daily interest savings account TFSA is useful when you only have $5000 or so saved. But when you start to save more than that, it’s time to consider investing some of your money while saving the rest. I’ll describe one strategy for investing in a TFSA in the sequel to this article.

Related Reading

  • Tracking your TFSA Contribution Room Can Save You from Fines
  • Should You Save for your First Home in Your TFSA or RRSP?
  • Maximize Your TFSA First

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When did you open your first TFSA? Would you encourage a teenager to open one as soon as they turn 18 (or 19)? Please share your views with a comment.

Posted in Finances, Money Tips | Tagged credit union, Oaken Financial, PC Financial, Tangerine, Tax-Free Savings Account, TFSA

CIBC Investor’s Edge Really Wants Your Business: Free ETF Trades, Cash Back, Free Stock Trades

Posted on 2015 02 18 by BetCrooks

The online discount brokerages know that the beginning of the year is when many people finally decide to open a brokerage account. They are either opening a RESP, TFSA or RRSP or are “upgrading” their existing one to allow themselves to purchase and hold more types of investments. Some other people have resolved to take more control of their finances and are opening non-registered trading accounts. Whatever the reason for the new account, all of the brokerages want your business. CIBC Investor’s Edge has rolled out a bin of specials and offers to try to entice you to deal with them including cash back incentives, free stock trades and even free ETF trades, although everything comes with conditions of course.

What’s the New Offer for 2015 at CIBC Investor’s Edge?

Most of the offers at Investor’s Edge have been available for a while, but there’s one that’s new to me: They are offering free trades on about 1900 eligible ETFs from now till March 31, 2015.

This offer is a bit different than Scotia iTrade’s. They offer free ETF purchases for a list of eligible funds.

It’s also a bit different than Questrade’s. They offer free ETF purchases (well, there may be an ECN fee) but they do not offer free ETF sales.

Here are the details of the CIBC offer:

  • The free ETF trades apply to ALL customers not just new ones.
  • The trades are only free from now till March 31, 2015. After that the regular fee of $6.95 per purchase or sale applies.
  • Leveraged ETFs are not eligible. (And personally I think you shouldn’t be buying them anyway, so good on Investor’s Edge.)
  • If you buy units of an ETF you must wait one business day before selling the units or you will have to pay the usual commissions.
  • You must buy at least $100 worth of units of an ETF. That’s $100 Canadian for a Canadian ETF, or $100 US for an American-listed ETF.
  • You can only place the free orders online, not by phone.

Why This Investor’s Edge Offer is Great for Couch Potato or Index Investors

If you think that the best way to invest is to buy and hold “the markets” by buying units in 2 to 4 ETFs that mirror the behaviour of the TSX, NYSE and a few other international stock markets, plus perhaps a bond fund for balance, this deal is a good one for you. You could easily set up your portfolio for free!

Or, if you have an existing portfolio of ETFs, you could use these free trades to do your annual re-balancing. For no fee, you can sell any funds that you have too many $$ invested in, and buy the funds that are lagging behind.

What if you’re transferring in your ETFs from another brokerage and you don’t think they’ll arrive before March 31? Well, you might be able to at least do any re-balancing that can be done by buying ETF units using any new cash that you can contribute immediately to your account. At least those purchases will be commission free.

Why This Is Especially Cool for Registered Education Savings Plans and Tax Free Savings Accounts

CIBC Investor’s Edge already offers a plus for RESPs and TFSAs. They don’t charge an annual fee even if you have a very low balance in your RESP or TFSA.

Now (but only till March 31) you can also buy ETFs, or rebalance your ETF holdings by selling and buying units, even if you can’t afford to buy a huge number of units. You don’t have to worry that the commission of $6.95 per purchase or sale will eat up all of your earnings!

What Else Is Investor’s Edge Offering New Customers?

The free ETF trading is for all customers at Investor’s Edge, new or existing.

They also have the lowest trading fee of any of the “big bank” brokerages. They charge just $6.95 per trade regardless of the size of your account.

There are also some offers for new customers.

If you open a new account with Investor’s Edge before February 28, 2015 you can get cash back and free trades.

For an account transfer/deposit of

  • $25,000 get $100 cash back and 25 free trades
  • $50,000 get $200 cash back and 50 free trades
  • $100,000 get $300 cash back and 100 free trades.

The free trades must be executed within 60 days of the transfer-in date (when the money arrives in your account.)

You can read all the other details at Investor’s Edge.

Remember, you must phone in and discuss the offer BEFORE starting a transfer if you wish to get the cash bonus and free trades! They do not automatically apply.

Do We Use CIBC Investor’s Edge? How would we rate Investor’s Edge?

Yes. We have a RRSP and a non-registered trading account at Investor’s Edge at this time.

I like the low trading commissions but as a “buy and hold” investor I don’t make many purchases in a year.

I wish they would add Home Trust to their list of GIC vendors, though, because sometimes I can get a better GIC rate at InvestorLine than I can get at Investor’s Edge. Overall, though, I can usually get a good rate.

Investor’s Edge does not offer US dollar RRSP sub-accounts, yet. If you talk to the brokerage on the same day as you wish to make a trade, you can get them to “neutralize the exchange-rate mark-up” for a US stock trade in a registered account.
I haven’t done this, as we keep our US registered funds elsewhere.

Overall, I find the Investor’s Edge platform to be fine. I don’t find it as pleasant at BMO InvestorLine’s, but considering I only need to buy a few ETFs, shares and GICs a year, I find it easy to use.

I have not really taken advantage of the market information etc available at any of the three brokerages we use so I can’t speak to them yet.

Anyway, given the host of incentives CIBC Investor’s Edge is offering, you may want to keep them on your short-list of possible brokerages. And personally I’ll be hoping they continue to offer some free ETF trading months each year!

Related Reading

  • A Morningstar article by Gail Bebee: “Why you need a U.S.-dollar registered retirement account“
  • How to Open a Brokerage Account at CIBC Investor’s Edge
  • How to Buy Shares or Units of ETFs at CIBC Investor’s Edge
  • How to Buy a GIC at CIBC Investor’s Edge

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