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How to Make a TFSA Contribution to a BMO InvestorLine Account and How Long It Takes to Get There

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This year I decided to pay attention to how long it took before my TFSA contribution showed up in my BMO InvestorLine account. Until it shows up, I can’t buy new investments with it. My InvestorLine account is connected directly to my BMO chequing account so I did not have to mail my contribution or visit a branch.

How to Contribute Online to a BMO InvestorLine TFSA

  1. Sign in to your InvestorLine account.
  2. If you have multiple accounts, select your TFSA account from the drop-down list in the top right corner of the screen.
  3. On the rather busy Home screen, there is a box headed “Manage my Account.”
    Within it, you can click on the Contribute to my TFSA link
    OR
    Click on My Portfolio.
    Under the Account Balance, you can click on the Make a contribution to TFSA link.
    Either link takes you to the same screen.
  4. Confirm that the heading is TFSA Transactions.
    If so, if necessary, click on the Contributions tab.
    Note: there is a warning that it will take 3-4 business days for a contribution to show in the Transaction History.
  5. To make a new contribution, click to select the radio button to specify whether to fund the contribution from a BMO Bank Account or from an Investment Account. (Presumably that means an InvestorLine non-registered investment brokerage account.)
  6. For a BMO Bank Account
    • In the BMO Transit # field, type the account transit
    • In the BMO Account # field, type the bank account number
  7. For an Investment Account
    • In the From: field, type in the number for the investment account.
  8. The field labeled To TFSA Account field has been filled in by InvestorLine.
  9. In the Amount ($) field, type in the desired contribution.
  10. In the Enter your Trading Password field, type in your password for making equity trades.
    If necessary, enter your Trading Password again.
  11. Read the over-contribution penalty information. If you understand it and won’t be over contributing, click on the I Accept check box.
  12. In the Contact Information section, in the Primary Number field type your phone number.
  13. Review your selections, and if they look acceptable, click on the Submit button.
  14. Save your transaction confirmation or print it for your records.

And now you wait.

And wait.

How Long Does it Take for a Contribution to Be Ready to Use in an InvestorLine TFSA?

I entered my TFSA contribution at 1:26 p.m. on a Wednesday. It’s now 2 p.m. on Thursday and it’s not in my account yet.

Checking the Status of Your TFSA Contribution to InvestorLine

You can check that you didn’t imagine the entire transaction. A bit strangely, the place to check is found by clicking on the Make a Contribution to TFSA link when looking at My Portfolio.

The Recent Contributions section shows the Reference Number for the contribution, which account it is coming from, where it is going to, the amount, the transaction date and the status of the transaction.

After 24 hours, my status is still “Submitted.” Good thing the markets are up today so I didn’t want to buy anything anyway.

The pending contribution does not show up under the Order Status list under Trading.
The pending contribution amount does not show up on the Positions screen for the TFSA (the one displayed under My Portfolio.)

I’ll update this with when the contribution finally shows up. Given that it was an electronic fund transfer between BMO and BMO InvestorLine on a regular business mid-week day, I’m not very impressed so far. I have a sneaking suspicion that when I get my passbook updated I’ll find the money was withdrawn from my chequing account immediately.

It’s especially disheartening by comparison. We have savings and RRSP accounts with ING Direct. They are good for parking a quick RRSP contribution in time to meet the tax deadine. Then we move it to its long term investment home. (Please see RRSP Strategies Part 1: How to Best Get your RRSP Money Contributed Before the Tax Deadline.)

Anyway, last night in under five minutes, we were able to contribute online from one person’s savings account to the other person’s Spousal RRSP account. That included the time to print the RRSP contribution receipt. Instantly, the RRSP money was in the ING Direct RRSP daily interest savings account ready to be invested in GICs or Streetwise mutual funds, or even ready to be transferred out to another financial institution for no fee.

It makes BMO’s delay of over 24 hours for a TFSA contribution seem pretty pokey.

How Long Did It Take for the BMO InvestorLine TFSA Contribution to Be Deposited Ready to Spend?

The contribution finally arrived in my account on the morning two nights after that day I made the contribution. So I lost the balance of the trading day on the day I made the transfer and one entire trading day before it arrived. Could be worse. But not exactly stellar service, either, considering this was a transfer from BMO to InvestorLine.

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Can I Transfer my RRSP and TFSA Mutual Funds from BMO to a Self Directed InvestorLine Account?

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In blissful ignorance of any rules, I applied to transfer my RRSP mutual funds from BMO to my self directed InvestorLine account. The funds were all ones issued by BMO itself. In fact they were all ancient funds dating back to the time of the runaway success of the book, The Wealthy Barber. I wish the funds had been a fraction as successful as the book!

Fortunately, the transfers went smoothly. I was able to successfully transfer a variety of BMO mutual funds, including some index funds and a mortgage and short term income fund.

Why Did I Still Have These BMO Mutual Funds?

I used to be a charter member of the Ostrich School of RRSP Investing. Shortly after I first bought these funds, the markets tanked. Since my largest investment was in the TSX index fund, my mutual fund tanked too. (Thanks Nortel!)

The Ostrich School of RRSP Investing

As all ostriches are said to do (but I don’t think any REAL ostriches ever do) I stuck my head in the sand and refused to look at any more statements for those RRSPs. BMO indulged me by sending me separate statements for my mutual funds and my GICs and I quickly learned how to tell without opening the envelope which was which. Carefully once each year, I would slice open the four mutual fund envelopes, extract the statements, shred the first three unread, and file the year end report in my binder without looking past the “Dear customer” line.

Can you believe I’m actually a debt-free homeowner with two cars and money in the bank?

Oh. You’ve met my husband. Well, yes, he’s probably largely why…..

….although the fact I stopped investing in the stock market is also a factor. PLUS I never sold the mutual funds. And they were *INDEX* mutual funds (and a fixed income one.) All the Couch Potatoes out there are waving their arms and shouting out that sooner or later the Index returns to the norm and over the long run growth occurs. And they are right. It did and it has. The funds actually have earned a respectable annual return over the long, lonely years. Not that that is going to stop me from selling them!

Assembling the Jigsaw Puzzle of Our Investments One Curious Amoeba-Shaped Piece at a Time

Moving these mutual funds to my self-directed account with InvestorLine placed one piece properly in the puzzle that is our investment picture. There are still a few pieces of the edge missing and, as usual, some of the sky, but we’re starting to be able to recognize what we’re trying to build.

Yes, You Can Transfer Many BMO Mutual Funds In Kind to a Self Directed InvestorLine Account

So if you are planning to move your RRSP or TFSA mutual fund investments from BMO to InvestorLine it should progress smoothly. When in doubt, talk to the advisor at your branch with the most experience with InvestorLine or call InvestorLine directly. And if you have time, share a comment with us about how it goes.

You can also check whether InvestorLine sells the same fund as a no-fee fund from this list. If they do, there’s a good chance the transfer with happen smoothly.

There are a few funds out there that are not available except from their issuer. For example, you won’t be able to move ING Streetwise Funds to another institution.

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