ATL5000 High Interest Savings Account Fund at CIBC Investor’s Edge Online Discount Brokerage

After transferring some funds into our new CIBC Investor’s Edge account, I looked into whether we could park our extra cash in a high interest savings account fund while waiting for an opportunity to invest it later. CIBC Investor’s Edge does offer ATL5000, the Renaissance daily high interest savings account fund.

What is the Minimum I Have to Invest in an Investor’s Edge High Interest Savings Account Fund?

The minimum investment is $1000. I believe if you try to make a withdrawal that will reduce your investment below $1000 it will not go through. I’m not sure, though, so I hope to test it later.

This means if I receive a dividend payment of, say, $176, it takes two steps and about 4 days to deposit it into the savings account.

First, I would have to sell $1000 of my ATL5000 (or if that would leave me with less than the minimum of $1000, I would have to sell my entire ATL5000 holding.) Like most mutual funds, that should settle in T+1 (trade day plus one business day) provided I put in the sell order before the daily deadline (usually 3 p.m.)

Next, after it had settled, I would have to place a buy order for the $1176. That would take another T+1 business days to settle. It is also possible that mutual funds may settle more slowly than expected. They do not have to follow the same hard rules as equity trades.

How Long Do I Have to Leave my Money in the CIBC ATL5000 HISA? Is there an Early Redemption Fee?

Many high interest account funds offered by online brokerages charge an early redemption fee if they are cashed before the first 90 days of investment. The ATL5000 fund offered through Investor’s Edge does not have a minimum holding period. It can be sold after only a few days with no penalty.

Be Careful Not to Lose Your Interest by Cashing a HISA Too Soon

High interest funds like ATL5000 mimic a daily interest savings account. That means that although interest is calculated daily, it is paid monthly. If you fully redeem the fund before the monthly interest payment is deposited in your account, you could will forfeit that interest.

So using a HISA fund to try to earn interest on your cash for a term shorter than 30 days requires a bit of planning. If you can leave the $1000 minimum in the account until the previous month’s interest is paid, you may want to do that.

Frankly, at the current posted rate of 1.25% ANNUAL interest it may not be very important. If you are only parking, say, $10,000 for 45 days, you would receive the first interest payment, and forfeit the second. Pretending that all months have 30 days, that would mean forfeiting about $5 in interest. You still would have made the approximately $10 interest for the first 30 days of investing. (Don’t scoff at $10 interest: it pays for your next trade.)

If ATL5000 is a No Load Fund Why Does It Say Front Load under the Fund Type?

When in the purchase screen for the ATL5000 fund on CIBC Investor’s Edge, you can click for a recent price quote. When you do so, you may notice it says ATL5000 has a Front End load.

Does that mean you have to pay a fee to buy ATL5000?

Not directly, no. The front end fee is built into the interest rate  you receive for your money. You don’t hand over a tangible, say, $10, but you do only get the posted rate of 1.25% which was calculated after paying the fee to the brokerage.
UPDATE: On March 18, 2017 ATL5000 is paying 0.75%.

If you look at the Product Features for ATL5000 you will see the brokerage receives a front end fee of 0.25 %.

If you look even more closely, you’ll see there is an ATL5001 series F fund available. http://www.renaissanceinvestments.ca/en/news/archive/2007/default.asp That fund is sold only through fee-for-service brokerages. It does not have a front end load. It pays 1.50% interest. However, to be eligible to buy this type of fund you must be dealing with a full-fee brokerage. CIBC Investor’s Edge is a discount brokerage.

There is no fee to buy or sell this fund through Investor’s Edge, except for this hidden fee.

Why Not Just Connect to a True Online High Interest Savings Account?

An observant reader pointed out that if you have an investment account at your self-directed brokerage, you can get a substantially better interest rate by connecting it to a true online high interest savings account at a financial institution like Ally. [UPDATE: Ally is gone! RBC closed it.] The one notable drawback is that there may be a significantly longer turnaround time than T+1 (trading day plus one business day) to get your money transferred back into your account ready to use. The brokerages are not exactly eager to make this easy for you, and may put a hold on transfers in from non-affiliate financial institutions.

This article, however, is aimed at investors with RRSP, RESP or TFSA accounts at self-directed brokerages. For these types of accounts, there may be a very high fee for transferring funds out to another institution. That’s where these HISA funds become an important option.

Comparison of High Interest Savings Accounts at CIBC Investor’s Edge to at BMO InvestorLine

In this comparison, CIBC Investor’s Edge is the clear winner. At BMO, the minimum investment in a HISA is $25,000. [UPDATE: The minimum is now $5000 at InvestorLine in February 2014.] At CIBC it’s $1000. Both have no fees to pay for purchase or sale. Both pay the same interest rate, currently 1.25%. UPDATE: On March 18, 2017 ATL5000 and AAT770 are both paying 0.75%.

Both even sell ATL5000. [UPDATE: In February 2014 only Investor’s Edge readily sells ATL5000; In most cases, InvestorLine will only sell AAT770.] The more reasonable minimum at CIBC makes its offering better.

UPDATE: As of April 11, 2013, BMO InvestorLine now sells the BMO HISAs AAT770 and AAT780 which have a minimum required balance of $5,000. This is not as good as the $1,000 requirement at CIBC, but it is much better than the former limit of $25,000.

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Is There a 90 Day Holding Period for the High Interest Savings Accounts Offered by BMO InvestorLine?

When I first started investigating high interest savings account options with BMO InvestorLine I believed that they were sold as mutual funds. That made me wonder: is there a 90 day holding period for the HISAs offered by InvestorLine?

Written: 2012
Reviewed: 2023
Revised: 2023

Mutual Funds Require a Minimum Holding Period of 90 Days…
The Mutual Fund Order Entry screen includes a statement that “All mutual fund orders are subject to BMO InvestorLine Investment Policies and Minimums or third party fund company minimums.” When you read the 2022 Commission and Fee Schedule it clearly states:

“Early Redemption Fee: Exempting Money Market and TBill funds and back load (DSC) funds, an early redemption fee of 1%, subject to a minimum of $43 ($35 for electronic orders) will be charged for funds held for less than 90 days. Switch orders are subject to the same early redemption fee.”

…But Are High Interest Savings Accounts Mutual Funds?
I decided to ask BMO InvestorLine directly to clarify this using their MyLink internal email system. The reply surprised me.

“High Interest Savings accounts are not mutual funds.

“They bear variable interest rates and can be redeemed any time. There is no lock in period like GIC and no need to keep it for 90 days to avoid being charged Early Redemption Fee of $35 for redeeming it like any mutual fund trade.

“We process the trades of these High Interest Savings products through mutual fund trade platform, but they are not mutual funds.

“Unlike mutual funds, they are guaranteed by CDIC up to $100,000.”

(On the High Interest Savings Account page, BMO links to CDIC insurance information.)

I think that they need to update their system to create a new Order Entry screen for these accounts, or they need to update their Investment Policies and Minimums screen to include High Interest Savings Accounts along with Money Market funds and TBill funds as being exempt from a holding period.

High Interest Savings Accounts are Not Subject to a 90-day Minimum Holding Period

So the verdict is that the high interest savings accounts offered by BMO InvestorLine are not subject to a 90-day holding period.

This is good news.

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