What Happens If You Deposit a Spouse’s Cheque in Your Tangerine Account By Mistake?

My husband and I have some shares in a company we worked for that pays dividends. Despite the fact that I enrolled my shares online at Computershare, I still haven’t switched to having the dividend electronically deposited into my bank account. What happened recently may make me hurry up and change that. Anyway, we received two paper cheques and I went to deposit them into our respective Tangerine accounts by using an iPad to take a photo of the cheque and sent it in. I only made one mistake: I sent the photo of MY unendorsed cheque to be deposited into my husband’s chequing account: then I was left wondering, what would happen?

Will Tangerine Reject a Cheque Sent by Photo Deposit that is Not Payable to the Account Holder?

If I had tried to deposit the cheque into a joint account, I would not have had any worries. However, I had tried to deposit the cheque, which was not signed on the back, nor made payable by writing on it in some way, into an account that is solely my husband’s.

He received the standard Tangerine email stating they had received the images of the cheque.

Then we started waiting to see what, if anything would happen. After a couple of business days, he received a second email from Tangerine.

The Not Very Reassuring Result

They accepted it!

Tangerine cashed and cleared the cheque without questioning why it was not payable to my husband. Admittedly, our last name and address are the same but even so, it technically should not have been accepted.

Because I made the mistake and have no urge to complicate matters, I won’t be demanding Tangerine reverse the payment. It would be interesting to see, though, how complicated it is if we needed to reverse the payment.

The Two Morals of the Story

Don’t deposit a cheque without engaging your brain first to make sure you are putting the correct cheque into the correct account.

Don’t expect a bank to automatically reject a cheque being deposited into the incorrect account.

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How to Check the Cash Redemption Value of a Premium Canada Savings Bond

My children have a collection of Canada Premium Bonds given to them over the years by a kind relative. The rate of return in recent years on these bonds has been shockingly low but the principal is safe and the donor is happy. Recently, though, I’ve been able to coax the donor into allowing me to move some of the money into another investment for the children which will at least keep up with the rate of inflation so the value of the gift is not diminishing over time. That led me to wonder how I could determine the value of any given Canada Savings Bond or Canada Premium Bond if it is redeemed early.

How to Look Up the Cash Value of a Canada Premium Bond With Compound Interest Which Has Not Matured

I knew the government had the redemption values for Canada Savings Bonds on the internet but it took a bit of clicking to get to the correct page.

To check the value of your bond, first check which series it is. The series will be part of the numbers on the front of the printed bond. Look for CP and a couple of digits.

Next, go to the redemption tables available online at
http://www.csb.gc.ca/fis/redemption-tables-s40/?type_select=1&bond_type=P&interest_type=C

Click on the link with the name of your bond series. For example, I clicked on CP52.
The table will display the value of each of the different sizes or face values of bonds listed across the page in columns, such as $100, $300, $500, $1000 etc.

You look for the correct column, then read down the page to the month you plan to cash the bond. For example, I looked at the December 2015 column.

Is There a Penalty for Cashing a Premium Canada Savings Bond Early?

Sort of.

When you look up the redemption value for a bond, you’ll notice the values in most rows are the same. That’s because for these bonds, you lose any interest earned since the last anniversary of the purchase if you cash the bonds before the next anniversary.

That means that if the bond was issued with a November 1 date, if you cash it in any following year in November, you will receive each of the previous years’ interest payments. But if you cash it in December-October, you will forfeit any interest it was trying to earn during those extra months. You will receive the interest earned for all the years up till the most recent November 1, though.

So by cashing a CP52 bond in December, I am forfeiting any interest earned after November 1 2015. But I’m getting the interest earned in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 until November 1.

How to Look Up the Cash Redemption Value of a Canada Premium Bond with Regular Interest

Similarly, if you know the series number (typed on the front of your paper bond) for a Premium Bond with simple or regular interest, you can look up its redemption value online.

Go to http://www.csb.gc.ca/fis/redemption-tables-s40/?type_select=1&bond_type=P&interest_type=R

Click on the series number for your bond. For example RP75.

Note that if you cash these types of bonds in the wrong month, you will get paid LESS than the face value of the bond. That is because you were already paid some interest in advance of earning it.

How to Look Up the Cash Redemption Value of a Canada Savings Bond with Compound Interest

Go to http://www.csb.gc.ca/fis/redemption-tables-s40/?type_select=1&bond_type=S&interest_type=C

Click on the link for the series of the bond you own. For example, click on CS115.

How to Look Up the Cash Redemption Value of a Canada Savings Bond with Regular Simple Interest

Go to http://www.csb.gc.ca/fis/redemption-tables-s40/?type_select=1&bond_type=S&interest_type=R

Click on the link for the series of the bond you own. For example, click on RS115.

How to Look Up the Value of Matured Canada Savings and Premium Bonds

As usual, you will need to check the series number printed on the front of your bond.
Then choose one of the following pages to look at:

For Canada Savings Bonds in series 1 – 31

Read the details by going to page
http://www.csb.gc.ca/fis/redemption-tables-s40/?bond=S115&interest=1

And clicking on the blue link “Matured Old Style Canada Savings Bonds (Series 1-31)

Then click on the link to the PDF file.

For Canada Savings Bonds in series 32-45

For regular simple interest bonds, the value is the face value because all of the interest has already been paid.

For compound interest bonds, look them up in the table at http://www.csb.gc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/matured_s32-s45.pdf

For Canada Premium Bonds

For Compound Interest bonds, click on the link for the series of your bond at
http://www.csb.gc.ca/fis/redemption-tables-s40/?type_select=1&bond_type=P&interest_type=C

For Simple Regular Interest bonds, click on the link for the series of your bond at
http://www.csb.gc.ca/fis/redemption-tables-s40/?type_select=1&bond_type=P&interest_type=R

(The value is generally the face or par value of the bond as the interest has already been paid.)

If All Else Fails How Can I Find Out the Value of my Canada Savings Premium Bond?

You can contact the Canada Savings Bond office at the phone numbers listed on their webpage at
http://www.csb.gc.ca/contact-us/#phone

You are a “Certified Bond Owner” in case you’re trying to decide which number to call.

You can also ask at most banks and large financial institutions to check the value of your bond. They will usually look it up as a courtesy for you if they have time.

Good luck!

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