What Information Does BMO InvestorLine Provide About a RESP Family Plan Especially After a Transfer?

While wandering around the Financial Wisdom Forum which Ellen Roseman had mentioned, I tripped over a post entitled: RESP Transfer: Who Keeps Track of What? I had transferred our RESP from BMO to BMO InvestorLine at the start of the year. Because I’ve kept personal track of our contributions, grants and earnings per child I hadn’t really thought much about this topic. Now motivated, I decided to check what BMO InvestorLine reports to the Subscribers about the transactions in a Family Plan RESP after funds are transferred in from an existing RESP.

What Does BMO InvestorLine Report for a Family Plan RESP and Where?

The BMO account was easy. They mailed me a paper statement each quarter.

InvestorLine has shifted to e-everything so I had to start snooping around my InvestorLine program to see what was available.

The Chase

[As in “cut to the….”]

If you choose not the read the details on what information is available (and therefore will remain forever ignorant of why 5.25” disks are important and what this topic has to do with Facebook) you will discover the answer is: not much.

I was unable to find any online report or screen that showed me at a glance what had been contributed per beneficiary and what grants had been received per beneficiary over the life of the plan. I could not even find this information for contributions and grants handled only after the transfer to InvestorLine.

I think that is rather shoddy.

BMO reports that information. [See below.] I’m displeased that BMO InvestorLine does not.
I had to contact BMO InvestorLine through the MyLink secure email service (or by telephone) and ask to get the correct information about the amount contributed and granted per Beneficiary this year and since the plan was opened.

Does BMO InvestorLine Have the Correct RESP Contribution and Grant History?

Yes.

I wrote to inquire about the amount we had contributed and been granted per Beneficiary both after we opened an account at InvestorLine and prior to that in the years that the account was held at BMO, The InvestorLine representative had the correct numbers available and emailed them to me using MyLink.

It’s baffling to me why if they have this information they don’t have a simple report or screen that gives it to the client!

What Information Does InvestorLine Provide about the RESP Contribution and Grant History?

The best information I could find was in the My Portfolio: RESP Contributions: Summary and in the My Portfolio: eDocuments sections.

My Portfolio: RESP Contributions: Summary

I clicked on the Summary link under the heading RESP Contributions under the My Portfolio tab for our InvestorLine Family Plan RESP.

This *should* be a useful, if simple, screen.

It has two simple columns : Beneficiary and Year-to-Date Contributions.
[Yes, InvestorLine heads things Year-to-date on some screens and Year-to-Date on others. They must have a strange Style Book.]

In fact, earlier this year, this screen accurately reported the contribution we had made for each Beneficiary this year.

Today, though, it’s dead wrong:

  • It lists the Beneficiaries twice. I’m not sure why.
  • For one Beneficiary, it correctly lists the total contribution made over several years but that is NOT the Year-to-Date contribution despite the heading on the column.
  • For the other Beneficiaries, it lists 0 as the contributions!
  • It doesn’t include any information about Grants.

A disclaimer on the page warns the data may not be correct and says:
“For a complete list and description of transactions, please refer to your monthly client statements. You may want to contact us to know the official contributions and grant payments values.”

I guess I’ll be reporting the error via MyLink, the secure email system, and requesting they fix it.

In the meantime, I’ll take their advice and look at the monthly client statements.

My Portfolio: eDocuments

I clicked on the eDocuments link under My Portfolio. There are two tabs on the screen that opens:

  • Statements
  • Confirmations & Other documents

My Portfolio: eDocuments: Statements
Notes include a comment that statements are available for up to 16 months of activity. That suggests to me that it would be a good idea to download the statements and store them on a removable device or disk because you might need them years from now when your children start withdrawing money.

The statements are monthly and are in PDF format. By clicking on a link captioned by the Month and Year, you can open or download the statement. You may want to print any months that have significant events such as Contributions or the deposit of Grants, depending on your paranoia about computer program obsolescence. (E.g. will you be able to open PDFs in 16 years? I have some files on 5.25” disks that only a very, very few people would be able to read nowadays!)

What’s In the Monthly Statement for a BMO InvestorLine Family Plan RESP?

Your Activities this Month

  • Date
  • activity
  • quantity
  • description
  • price
  • commission
  • amount

This section reports dividends received, including those within the HISA.

If you make a contribution to the RESP, this is where it will be reported. It will report the amount contributed per beneficiary but will only identify the Beneficiary with a simple code like BENE: 02 not a name.

If you receive a grant to the RESP, this is where it will be reported. It will report the amount of the grant received per beneficiary. This time the Beneficiary will be identified by a code like BENE:02 but also by a name. It will state for which year the grant was received.

This section does *not* provide a year-to-date summary of how much was contributed or granted per Beneficiary.

Other reported information includes the following.

Identifying information

  • Our type of account and its number
  • The names of the Subscribers (that’s usually the parents)
  • The InvestorLine mailing address
  • A toll-free number to call InvestorLine.

Your Portfolio Summary
Summary of Assets
The dollar value and % of the portfolio invested in each of the following categories:

  • cash
  • equities
  • mutual funds
  • [There may be other categories. Categories are only listed if you hold some investments in that class.]
  • value this month
  • value previous statement
  • change in investment value

Unlike in the BMO RESP, cash does not earn any interest.

Mutual funds includes AAT770 the daily interest savings account fund. This is where you should keep any cash, if you can, so that it at least earns some interest. At the time this was written, it is paying 1.25% per year.

Account Summary

  • opening cash balance
  • closing cash balance
  • trades settling after month end
  • cash balance after all trades
  • commissions this month
  • commissions Year-to-date

As you can see, this section does not tell you how much was contributed or granted per Beneficiary.

Your Investment Holdings

  • quantity
  • symbol
  • security description
  • price
  • market value
  • notes
  • asset location

This section includes information about equities and mutual funds (including the HISA.)

This section also does not tell you how much was contributed or granted per Beneficiary.

I then started checking through all of the other information provided online for a RESP at InvestorLine. This is what I found.

My Portfolio: Transaction History Information for an InvestorLine RESP

I clicked on Transaction History under the My Portfolio tab for our InvestorLine Family Plan RESP.

Then I selected the starting date for when we opened the account and the ending date for the present day and clicked on the Refresh Transactions button.

This report provided some useful information:

  • It listed the date we made a new Contribution for Beneficiary 1, and the amount.
    It also listed the same information for the Contributions for the other Beneficiaries.
  • It listed the date the Grant was deposited for Beneficiary 1, the name of the Beneficiary and the amount.
    It repeated that information for the other Beneficiaries.

It also provided some semi-useful information:

  • It only listed the total amount transferred from BMO to InvestorLine and the date.
  • It didn’t itemize how much was the Contributions for each Beneficiary, how much was the Grants for each Beneficiary or how much was the growth/income earned by the investments in the account.

My Portfolio: Holdings Information for an InvestorLine RESP

I clicked on Holdings under the My Portfolio tab for our InvestorLine Family Plan RESP.

Under the Positions tab
was a list of our current holdings in

  • Cash (a non-interest paying savings account);
  • Cash Equivalents (money in the high interest savings account fund; GICs)
  • Equities (money in stocks, ETFs and equity-holding mutual funds)

No information was provided on a Beneficiary basis, only on an entire account basis.

No information was provided on how much money was from Contributions from the Subscribers or from grants from the government.

Under the Cash Detail tab
I was amused to note we have 9 cents in cash in our account. I guess I could buy some Facebook shares…..

Under the Portfolio Quotes tab
Was a summary of trading information about any stocks or ETFs we held.

Under the Allocation Charts tab
Were some spiffy pie charts showing our

  • allocation by asset class and
  • our equities by sector.

Under the News tab
was a series of links to press releases and dubious quality news stories about equities we might be holding.

In summary, nothing under the Holdings section provided any information about how much had been contributed by us or the government per subscriber.

My Portfolio: Portfolio Management for an InvestorLine RESP

I clicked on Portfolio Management which opened a screen entitled Performance Summary under the My Portfolio tab for our InvestorLine Family Plan RESP.

Under the Prior Years’, Avg. Annual Compound [heir comma not mine] tab
were the headings

  • Prior Years’ Performance % Rtn; and
  • Avg. Annual Compound Rate of Return

Since our holdings have not been in the account for year, there was only N/A listed.

No information from our BMO reports was imported, apparently.

Under the Monthly, Quarterly, Year-to-date tab
were three charts.

  • The Monthly Performance chart displayed a list of months and a %, presumably a Rate of Return.
  • The Quarterly Performance chart was the same for each of the Quarters of 2014 and 2013.
  • The Year-to-date Performance was the same as the Quarterly Performance chart, but presumably the data reported in the second quarter, once it has occurred, will be the Year-to-date return. (The return for the first quarter should equal the year-to-date return if you consider it carefully.)

Again, there was no information here about contributions or grants or anything else on a per Beneficiary basis. Historical performance data was obviously not imported as there was no data reported for 2013 when the investments were held by BMO.

My Portfolio: Portfolio Management: Performance Details for an InvestorLine RESP

I clicked on Performance Details under Portfolio Management under My Portfolio, which opened a screen entitled Performance Details for our InvestorLine Family Plan RESP.

This simple screen showed a table of transactions by month which included:

  • Net Deposits/Withdrawals (this showed the transfer in from BMO in the appropriate month)
  • Month End Market Value
  • Total Market Value
  • Change in Market Value
  • Change Net of Flows

An interesting summary but it provided little about the transfer other than to show the entire block of cash transferring in. It did not provide any information about the money on a per Beneficiary basis, nor did it detail what was Grant money, Contribution money, or earnings.

My Portfolio: Portfolio Management: Portfolio Rebalancing for an InvestorLine RESP

When I clicked on this link I was told that I do not have this service for any existing plans. Which is good.

My Portfolio: Portfolio Management: Activity Report for an InvestorLine RESP

Clicking this link led to a screen that said
“The Activity Report offers you a detailed transaction history in a .CSV format for up to 24 previous months of your account activity. Features include: transactions listed by lots filled (applicable to equities & ETFs); trade commissions displayed separately, and gain/loss totals provided for each security traded within the time frame you select.”

There is a BIG disclaimer about the information, too. I guess they’re worried that you will file your taxes with errors and try to blame InvestorLine. Frankly, I don’t think I’d trust any brokerage to fully understand my capital gains, losses, dividends, return of capital or other transactions so I’m not surprised.

I can’t see this type of report providing the info I’m curious about either.

Just to check I ran the report. Yep. Nothing I need.

My Portfolio: RESP Contributions for an InvestorLine RESP

I clicked on RESP Contributions under the My Portfolio tab for our InvestorLine Family Plan RESP.

The program took be over to the Education section called RESP Corner.

There were several tabs in this section:

  • Contribute to your RESP
  • Rules
  • Government grants and incentives
  • Withdrawals
  • Forms

Nothing of relevance or use to a specific Family Plan, however.

My Portfolio: RESP Contributions: Contribution for an InvestorLine RESP

I clicked on Contribution under RESP Contributions under the My Portfolio tab for our InvestorLine Family Plan RESP. It just took me again to the RESP Corner. No useful info.

What Did BMO Report for a Family Plan RESP?

I took a step backwards and pulled out one of our quarterly reports from our BMO Family Plan RESP.

Here’s what it told me:
Account Summary

  • The value of the account on the first and last day of the quarter
  • Any contributions or withdrawals made during that quarter
  • The Rate of Return of the plan for the last (rolling) one year and for the plan since its inception.
  • Contributions

This is a handy little chart. It shows me at a glance how much has been contributed and granted per child since the plan began.

Contributions made to the plan are listed by Beneficiary (usually the child) for

  • the quarter
  • the year to date; and
  • since the plan began

The Grants are also listed for these same three time periods per Beneficiary as well.
The total contributions and grants are also summarized.

Other reported information includes the following.

Investment Details
This section would provide details on all of the investments if we had many any. We had our contributions in the daily interest savings account to get it ready to move to InvestorLine.

It did report the interest earned per month during the quarter.

Identifying information

  • Our type of account and its number
  • The names of the Subscribers (that’s usually the parents)
  • The bank branch where we created the RESP and its transit number
  • A toll-free number to call BMO, which I had used to call to make contributions to the RESP

Investment Summary
The dollar value and % of the plan invested in each of the following categories:

  • savings
  • term investments
  • security funds
  • income and balanced funds
  • growth funds
  • equity growth funds
  • LifeStage Plus funds
  • BMO Portfolio Solutions

Savings means money in the daily interest savings account which is currently paying 1%.

Term investments means money in GICs or other fixed income products.

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Testing GenuTax Standard 2013 for a Student and a Parent Claiming Tuition, Education and Textbook Amounts

A reader recently asked how GenuTax Standard 2013 handles sharing the claim for a student’s university education expenses. My children aren’t even in high school yet, so I wasn’t sure. I decided to set up a mock file for a student and a parent and use it for testing how GenuTax handles a T2202A transfer between a student and a parent.

Please remember

  • I don’t work for GenuTax nor do I receive anything from them. If you have a complex question about GenuTax, please contact their help centre.
  • I’m just a regular tax payer.
  • I’m not a tax professional! If you have any doubts whatsoever about what you are doing, please call the Canada Revenue Agency or talk to a trained income tax accountant.

Will GenuTax Standard 2013 Tell You Exactly How Much Is Available to Transfer from a Student to a Parent?

Under the CRA rules, a student must use their tuition, education and textbook amounts themselves first to reduce their payable taxes to zero. Only after they owe nothing can they transfer some of these amounts.

So I ran my tests for the same student and parent, but for three different cases. In each case, the student was employed and received a T4 but the employer (naughty naughty!) did not withhold any tax, CPP or EI from their earnings.

Case 1: the student earned $8 000
Case 2: the student earned $15 000
Case 3: the student earned $25 000

Hey, Case 3 could be a co-op student or she could be employed by her extremely rich relative’s company.

I was pleased to see that GenuTax Standard 2013 did calculate how much of the student’s tuition and education amounts could be transferred.

For my Cases, the program decided the student could choose to transfer
Case 1: 5000 federally (the maximum the CRA allows); 6620 provincially (for ON)
Case 2: 2155 federally; 1194 provincially
Case 3: 30 federally; 0 provincially

So it appears that GenuTax Standard 2013 is telling you exactly how much may be transferred from a student to a parent, grandparent, or spouse’s or common-law partner’s parent or grandparent.

NOTE: A student does NOT have to transfer anything if they do not want to.

CAUTION: One Thing GenuTax Standard Does Not Tell You About Transferring Education Amounts

I did find one omission in the GenuTax Standard program that I think is worth mentioning.

A student must claim their education amount in the year they received it if they have any taxes owing.

The balance, if any, can be transferred or can be carried forward to a future tax year.

According to the 2013 CRA General Income Tax and Benefit Guide, however, if a student chooses to carry forward all or part of their education amount, that carried forward amount can ONLY be claimed by the student in the future. It cannot be transferred to anyone, including a parent or grandparent or spouse in the future.

I was a bit surprised that the program did not warn the user of this issue.

So if your student opts to carry forward their education amount, be aware that no one but the student can claim it in the future.

How Do I Know How Much to Transfer from My Student to My Tax Return? Will GenuTax Tell Me?

It’s possible that the person receiving the transfer of the education amount does not owe a huge amount in taxes.

If so, they may want to know if GenuTax Standard will tell them just how much to transfer to reduce their taxes to 0, so that they only transfer what they need, and let the student carry forward the balance for the student’s future tax returns.

Unfortunately, GenuTax Standard does not “iterate” between the two returns to calculate this number.

GenuTax Standard will not tell you how much of the education amount to transfer from your child to you.

How Can I Figure Out How Much of the Education Amount to Transfer to the Parent and How Much to Carry Forward?

The only way I can see to check how much of the education amount to transfer to the parent and how much to carry forward is to run some test cases.

Complete the student’s tax return first. (DON’T send it in yet!)

This will tell you the maximum amount that may be transferred to a parent or grandparent both federally and provincially/territorially.

Next, complete the parent’s tax return, claiming only 0 for the transferred education amount, both federally and provincially/territorially. Check how much tax is owed. (DON’T send it in yet!)

If nothing is owed, don’t transfer any credits from the student. Update the student’s return to carry forward all unused credits. File both returns.

OR If some tax is owed by the parent, update the parent’s tax return by putting in the maximum that can be claimed for the transferred education amount, both federally and provincially/territorially.

How much tax is owed? If the parent still owes tax, then claim the maximum amount, and update the student’s tax return to transfer the maximum amount. File both returns.

If the parent’s tax owing is 0 it will be necessary to guess and check how much of the education amount to claim.

GenuTax standard does not go back to the Dependant’s section and reduce the amount of the transfer to the minimum needed to reduce the tax owing to 0, unfortunately.

To do so, you will need to know how to get at the information you entered the first time in the parent’s return.

With the parent’s tax return file open, click on the Jump to Section (F9) button at the bottom of the screen.

From the list, select Dependants.
Click the Next button.

From the Dependants So far, you have entered details regarding…. Screen

Click to select the radio button beside Edit details for a dependant.
Click Next.

Now you can change how much of the education amount you wish to transfer to the parent.

If the parent’s tax owing is 0, revise the parent’s return by claiming 1 /2 of the maximum amount both federally and provincially/territorially.

If the tax owing is still 0, then the student only needs to transfer 1 /2 of their maximum amount or less. You’ll need to try again, this time using 1 /4 of the maximum amount or less.

BUT if now the parent owes tax, then the amount that needs to be transferred is between 1 /2 and all of the education amount eligible for transfer. You’ll need to try again, this time using 3 /4 of the maximum amount.

In other words, you’ll have to keep trying different transfer amounts until the parent owes no tax. Then the transfer amount that reduced the parent’s tax to zero should be used to update the student’s tax return.

Be Forewarned
While you read through the article, please be aware that I often refer to “the parent” as if there is only one. The Education amount can be transferred to

  • either parent of the student,
  • either parent of the spouse of the student, or
  • either grandparent of the student or
  • either grandparent of the spouse of the student.

Before carrying forward an unused Education amount, be sure to consider all of these possible people who could receive a transfer of the amount.

In fact, using a different set of screens and different lines in the tax return, the Education amount can also be transferred to the spouse (including the common-law spouse) of the student. I don’t test that type of transfer in this article.

Don’t Forget to File Your Actual Tax Returns!

Once both the student and the parent are paying as little tax as possible, the tax returns must be filed. GenuTax does NOT file the tax returns automatically. You must follow the on screen instructions to NETFILE each of the 2 returns or print out a paper copy of each of the 2 returns and mail them in.

If you are NETFILEing or sending in a paper return, you do not have to include the Form T2202A with the amount being transferred. Keep it though for 7 years in case of an audit.

If you are sending in paper returns, the student must include a completed Schedule 11 showing how much of the education amount is being transferred to the parent and/or how much is being carried forward. The parent does NOT submit a Schedule 11.

If you are NETFILEing, the information for Schedule 11 is included in the file GenuTax Standard sends to the CRA.

How Do I Use GenuTax Standard to Input the Education Amount on a Student’s and a Parent’s Tax Return?

Here are some details on what to enter on various screens when completing both the Student and the Parent’s tax return using GenuTax. NOTE: You must complete the Student’s tax return first so that you know the maximum education amount that can be transferred to the Parent’s tax return.

Completing the Student’s Income Tax File Using GenuTax Standard 2013

In general the return will be completed like any other tax return using GenuTax. I’m only going to mention the parts specific to being a student and/or transferring or carrying forward the education amount.

Near the beginning of the streamlined interview process, a Deductions and Credits screen will open. It lists a variety of types of deductions and credits.

Be sure to click to select the box beside: Student Credits

For my example, I decided that the child had earned income of $8 000 in 2013.

After the Deductions and Credits introduction screen, the Historical Information for Capital Gains Deduction screen is displayed and then the Tuition, Education and Textbook Amounts Carried Forward from 2012 screen.

Tuition, Education and Textbook Amounts Carried Forward from 2012 Screen
Tuition, Education and Textbook Amounts Carried Forward from 2012
Do you have any unused tuition, education and textbook amounts available to carry forward from 2012?
Any unused tuition, education and textbook amounts you have available to carry forward are shown on your notice of assessment or notice of reassessment for 2012.
Yes or No.

For my example, for a first year student, I answered No.

Eligible Tuitions Fees Screen
Eligible Tuitions Fees
Do you have any eligible tuition fees to claim for 2013?
Note: To claim a TRANSFER of tuition, education and textbook amounts from a child, you need to go back to the “Dependants” section of the interview.
Yes or No.

For my example, I selected Yes.

Eligible Tuition Fees Screen
Eligible Tuition Fees
Enter the total tuition fees paid for eligible courses you took in 2013.
NOTE: To be able to claim the tuition fees paid to an educational institution in Canada, you must have paid more than $100 in tuition fees to that institution for 2013. You cannot include in your tuition fees claim the amount paid for other expenses, such as board and lodging, students’ association fees, or textbooks.
$ ______________

For my example, I entered $3600

Education and Textbook Amounts Screen
Education and Textbook Amounts
Are you eligible to claim education and textbook amounts for your studies in 2013?
To be eligible to claim this amount, you must have received either Form T2202A, Form TL11A, Form TL11B or Form TL11C, from your educational institution.
Yes or No.

For my example, I selected Yes.

Education and Textbook Amounts for Full-time Studies Screen
Education and Textbook Amounts for Full-time Studies
Enter the total number of months for the full-time credits, as indicated in column C of your Forms T2202A, TL11A, TL11B, and TL11C for 2013.
When entering this number, be sure to count each calendar month only once.
__

For my example, I entered 8

Education and Textbook Amounts for Part-time Studies Screen
Education and Textbook Amounts for Part-time Studies
Enter the total number of months for the part-time credits, as indicated in column B of your Forms T2202A, TL11A, TL11B, and TL11C for 2013.
When entering this number, be sure to count each calendar month only once. Do not include a month that was included in column C for full-time studies which you entered on the previous screen.
__

For my example, I entered 0

Transferring Unused Federal Tuition, Education, and Textbook Amounts to Another Individual Screen
Transferring Unused Federal Tuition, Education, and Textbook Amounts to Another Individual
Based on your entries, the unused portion of your federal tuition, education and textbook amounts is $5000.00 If you wish, you may choose to transfer all of a portion of this amount to your spouse or common-law partner (if applicable), to your parent or grandparent, or to your spouse’s or common-law partner’s parent or grandparent. Any amount you do not transfer will be included in the amount carried forward to future years.
MY NOTE: And can then ONLY be used by the student not ever transferred again!
Would you like to designate the transfer of an amount to another individual?
Yes or No

For my example, I selected Yes.

Transferring Unused Federal Tuition, Education and Textbook Amounts to Another Individual Screen
Transferring Unused Federal Tuition, Education and Textbook Amounts to Another Individual
The maximum federal amount you have available for transfer is $5000. To transfer all or a portion of this amount, you have to designate the individual on your Form T2202A, TL11A, TL11B, or TL11C and specify the federal amount you are transferring to him or her.
Also enter the federal amount you are transferring below.
NOTE: You cannot transfer unused 2013 amounts to your parent or grandparent, or to your spouse’s or common-law partner’s parent or grandparent, if your spouse or common-law partner is claiming an amount for you on line 303 or line 326 of his or her Schedule 1.

For my example, I selected 5000 because this student already has no tax owing and the parent has a great deal of tax owing. (Sound familiar anyone?!)

Transferring Unused Ontario Tuition and Education Amounts to Another Individual Screen
Transferring Unused Ontario Tuition and Education Amounts to Another Individual
Based on your entries, the unused portion of your Ontario tuition and education amounts is $6620. If you wish, you may choose to transfer all or a portion of this amount to your spouse or common-law partner (if applicable), to your parent or grandparent, or to your spouse’s or common-law partner’s parent or grandparent. Any amount you do not transfer will be included in the amount carried forward to future years.
MY NOTE: And can then ONLY be used by the student not ever transferred again!
Would you like to designate the transfer of an amount to another individual?
Yes or No

For my example, I selected Yes

Transferring Unused Ontario Tuition and Education Amounts to Another Individual Screen
Transferring Unused Ontario Tuition and Education Amounts to Another Individual
The maximum Ontario amount you have available for transfer is 6620. To transfer all or a portion of this amount, you have to designate the individual on your Form T2202A, TL11A, TL11B, or TL11C and specify the provincial or territorial amount you are transferring to him or her.
Also enter the provincial or territorial amount you are transferring below.
NOTE: You cannot transfer unused 2013 amounts to your parent or grandparent, or to your spouse’s or common-law partner’s parent or grandparent, if your spouse or common-law partner is claiming an amount for you on line 5812 or line 5864 of his or her Form ON428.

For my example, I selected 6620 because this student already has no tax owing and the parent has a great deal of tax owing.

Interest Paid on Your Student Loans Screen
Interest Paid on Your Student Loans

For my example, I selected No.

Completing the Parent’s Income Tax File Using GenuTax Standard 2013

I’m only going to review the parts specific to having a child transferring the education amount to the parent in this article.

When first setting up the Parent’s income tax file,
when you get to that question on the Dependants screen
be sure to click YES If you are claiming the tuition, education and textbook amount as a transfer. NOTE: You can click YES and still only claim 0 if you choose to.

For my example, assume the dependant’s net income was $8000.

After answering about your child’s net income and whether they live with you while not attending school, you will eventually get to the screen
Dependant’s Unused Tuition, Education, and Textbook Amounts
Child’s Name
Has this dependant designated an amount of unused tuition, education, and textbook amounts to transfer to you for 2013?
To do so, this dependant must designate the amount to be transferred either on the back of copy 2 of their Form T2202A; in part 3 of their Form TL11A; in part 4 of their Form TL11B; or in part 4 of their Form TL11C.
Select Yes or No.

For my example, I selected Yes.

On the next Screen
Dependant’s Unused Tuition, Education and Textbook Amounts
Child’s Name
Enter the unused tuition, education and textbook amounts this dependant has designated to transfer to you for 2013, as indicated on their Form T2202A, TL11A, TL11B or TL11C.
NOTE: If this dependant did not reside in the same province or territory as you did at the end of 2013, contact the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA.)
Federal amount of transfer (1) $ ____________
Provincial or territorial amount of transfer (2) $ ___________________

For my example, I put 0 and 0 the first time I completed the Parent’s tax return. That told me whether or not the Parent’s owed any tax without claiming a transfer of the Education amount.

If the Parent does not owe any taxes without claiming an education amount, then the child/student should just carry forward the Education amount to use in future years. (Assuming that there is not another parent or grandparent who wants to test whether they can use the transfer.)

Those were the only screens I found that were necessary to fill out for the Education amount transfer.

Overall, I was satisfied with the way GenuTax handled the Education amount. It isn’t perfect but then it also doesn’t cost anything but a donation!

Speaking of which, if you do use the program, I strongly encourage you to make a donation to help them keep offering this service.

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