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How to Add a Link to Another Bank to Your PC Financial Bank Account for Transfers

Posted on 2015 12 18 by BetCrooks

When we first opened our No Fee chequing account at PC Financial, we filled out paperwork to link the account to one of our chequing accounts at a Big Canadian Bank. Later, I found out that only the Principal Account Holder could see this electronic link and use it! I was told that to link the account to another bank would require mailing in some more forms, so I didn’t bother. Fast forward to December 2015 and the PC Financial website has gone through a major upgrade. Today I noticed that there may be a new easier way to link our PC Financial No Fee chequing account to our chequing account at yet another Big 5 Bank, so I decided to try it out…and I discovered a “downer.”

What Do I Need to Know Before I Start Trying to Link Bank Accounts for Transfers?

Before I started I made sure for the existing bank account at a Big Bank I had handy

  • the institution number / bank number
  • the transit number and
  • the account number

for that chequing account.

This info is usually encoded on your cheques for a chequing account but you may have to phone and ask your bank for it for a savings only account.

(You can read how to get the three numbers from your cheque in my article on How to Find Your Bank Number which is part of How to Connect a Tangerine Account.)

What Accounts Can Be Linked to Your PC Financial Account?

You can NOT link

  • business accounts
  • accounts which require more than one signature to complete a transaction, which are usually high security accounts for things like schools and businesses
  • non-Canadian bank accounts
  • Canadian bank accounts which are not denominated in Canadian dollars, such as US dollar accounts

to your PCF account.

Only your own personal accounts, for which both accounts have the exact same owner’s name, can be linked. The account has to be at a Canadian bank and in Canadian dollars.

What Downer Did I Discover

Only after I started the online process for linking the accounts did the sad truth come out: PC Financial still requires me to mail something in. Not a huge form, printed at my own expense, anymore. But I still have to mail in a VOID cheque for the account I want to link to or one of those bank-stamped paper letters describing the account. Rats.

Which Is Better for Linking Bank Accounts: Tangerine or PC Financial?

So Tangerine is still better than PC Financial for linking accounts.

At Tangerine all of the required steps can be completed online without mailing anything anywhere. I even make a few cents when Tangerine tests the link by sending small sums to my other bank account.

With PC Financial I have to pay for a stamp ($1 if bought individually), an envelope, and wasting a cheque or waste time lining up at my bank to get a “bank-stamped” authorization letter instead. And I have to wait for the letter to be received by CIBC and processed before the linkage is completed.

Adding an Electronic Link to Push and Pull Money from Our Big Bank Account to Our PC Financial Account

  1. Sign on to your PC Financial account/s.
  2. From the list of links down the left side of the screen, click on Transfers.
  3. A new list opens underneath it. Click on the link: Add Accounts

Add Accounts Terms and Conditions Page

The first screen asks you to read the agreement before “adding your account from another financial institution to your account list in ‘online banking’ for bank-to-bank transfers.”

The terms are those for a pre-authorized debit or P.A.D. agreement. If you’re not sure what you are agreeing to, phone PC Financial and discuss it BEFORE you agree to it!

  1. If it makes sense and you can accept the rules, in the “Do you accept the Terms and Conditions above”” text box type your password for online banking.
  2. Click on the Continue button.

Add Accounts Step 1 Page

Read the information on the screen, especially about how to determine your Bank Number.

Uh oh. Bad news. You must mail in

  • a cheque from the other bank account with void written on it or
  • a “customized account confirmation form” with your name printed on it by the bank and stamped by the other bank

to finish linking the accounts.

You must have opened both accounts with the exact same name, too. I guess this is to avoid someone linking to their relative’s account who has a similar name?

In the text boxes, type your

  • Transit Number
  • Bank Number
  • Account Number

then click on the continue button.

Add Accounts Verification Window

A window will popup with your bank branch’s name and address. If it is correct click on the Confirm button.

Add Accounts Step 2 Page

Now for the non-electronic part.

Get an envelope and a stamp. Sigh.

  • Get a cheque for the account you are trying to link up.
  • The cheque must be pre-printed with your name and account number.
  • Write VOID across the cheque.
  • On the memo line, write “add account” and your customer number. They will tell you your customer number on the screen. Your customer number is NOT your PC Financial card number. It’s the number they display when they say “welcome” when you first sign in to your online banking.

OR

  • you’ll have to get a “customized account confirmation form” from your other financial institution.
  • It has to be an original, not a photocopy.
  • It has to be stamped with the bank’s stamp.
  • It must include your name, bank number, account number and transit number.

Mail your cheque or confirmation form to

President’s Choice Financial Services
P.O. Box 603, Stn. Agincourt
Scarborough, ON, M1S 5K9
(This address is posted on the website on Dec 18 2015. Please ensure it is still correct before mailing anything!)

And now you wait.

How Long Will It Take to Link My Bank Accounts?

PC Financial estimates it will take several business days.

I bet the clock doesn’t start ticking, though, until after you put that letter in the mail. Then you have to wait while Canada Post does it thing. Then someone at PC Financial will have to open the letter and handle the documentation.

They don’t send you an email when the account is linked. You have to keep checking your account list till it appears.

I’ll track how long it takes for my account to be linked and report it when it happens.

UPDATE: Well as of December 24 my accounts are linked. I mailed the letter in a big red Canada Post mailbox on Saturday December 19. So it took only 4 business days, after I mailed the letter, to complete the link. That’s actually pretty good!

How Do I Rate the Linking Process?

I’d say C minus. There is nothing automated or online about this linking process. Although you can type in the account number, transit and bank number, the exact same info has to be mailed to PC Financial before anything happens. I had hoped for an automated process like Tangerine’s but I guess I’ll have to keep waiting.

Related Reading

  • How to Connect a Tangerine Account to a Bank Account at Another Big Bank for Transfers
  • Do You Transfer Your Money to Get the Best Interest Rate?

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Posted in Finances, Money Tips | Tagged accounts, bank accounts, Big Bank, chequing, link, no fee chequing account, PC Financial, Tangerine, void

Whoops! There Goes the Free Overdraft Protection from Tangerine

Posted on 2015 11 09 by BetCrooks

We have a chequing account at Tangerine but we rarely write a cheque against it because we also have a no-fee chequing account at PC Financial which comes with unlimited free paper cheques. So it costs me nothing to write yet another cheque for $16 to my child’s school, this time to pay for a field trip to the symphony, if I use my PC Financial account; Using a cheque from Tangerine would eventually cost me money as I would run out of paper cheques sometime and have to pay for another book. So this summer when ScotiaBank, the new-ish owners of Tangerine decided to cancel the Whoops! free overdraft protection program I didn’t really pay much attention: it’s time to check into it though and update my info on Tangerine.

Why Losing Whoops! Protection might be a Good Thing

Whenever a bank ends a free service it tends to get discussed at RedFlagDeals. One or two people on a chat about the cancellation of Whoops! Protection pointed out a benefit: It should help Tangerine save money to not offer this free service. Those savings could result in a higher interest rate offered to customers. Personally, I’m not counting on that!

What Overdraft Protection Is Tangerine Offering on Its No Fee Chequing Account?

Tangerine now lets you buy overdraft protection. It covers when your balance drops below 0 due to

  • cash withdrawals
  • pre-authorized payments
  • cheques, and
  • debit purchases.

You can get policies to cover from $250 to $5000 of overdraft. Tangerine will decide how much overdraft it will offer to you based on your history with them and/or your credit rating.

How Will I Know If My Tangerine Chequing Account is Over-drawn?

Tangerine will send an email if your account balance drops below 0 and your over-draft protection beings.

What If I Made a Mistake and Transfer In the Money to Cover the Over-draft Immediately?

It’s possible for anyone to make a payment by debit or make a withdrawal of cash and realize immediately that they used the wrong bank account. Tangerine is giving a “same business day” grace period: if you make up the shortfall to restore your account balance to a positive number before the end of the same business day that you dropped below 0, they will not charge any fee or interest charge. (WARNING: This probably only applies if you have purchased their Overdraft Protection! If you have no overdraft policy, you might be able to get them to waive fees and interest if you phone in immediately to ask for an exemption.)

How Much Do I Pay If My Tangerine Account is Over-drawn?

There are two things you pay if you owe Tangerine money: a monthly fee and a high daily interest rate.

At the end of the first business day after your account balance drops below 0, you will be charged a $5 fee. Then, on the first day of each month when your balance is below 0 you will be charged another $5.

On top of the $5 fees (which will be added to the amount you owe and interest will be charged on those fees too!) you will also be charged interest daily. The interest rate is 19.00% per year but calculated by them as a daily rate and applied to your end-of-day shortfall each and every day until the amount is paid back.

Given that they are paying you a measly 0.8% interest rate on your savings, an over-draft rate of 19% is astonishingly high. DON’T spend money you don’t have!

Will I Be Applying for Tangerine Overdraft Protection?

No. I can’t see any realistic scenario where I would need it.

If at all possible, I strongly recommend all customers of any banks do not allow their accounts to slip into over-draft. It’s an incredibly expensive mistake. Keep an eye on your transactions, balance your bank book before you write a cheque or make a debit withdrawal and if necessary, look for other better ways to borrow money.

Is Tangerine’s Overdraft Protection Better or Worse than Other Banks?

Some banks charge a fee every month for overdraft protection whether it is used or not. Tangerine’s offer is better than that because it costs nothing if you don’t use it.

The fee and interest rate charged by PC Financial for overdraft protection is about the same as that charged by Tangerine as of the time this was written. (November 9 2015) Both banks could change their fees and rates at any time so always check directly with the bank before you make any decisions.

Tangerine’s free Whoops! Protection used to make their chequing account a bit better than some others; now that it’s gone, it’s getting harder to find a big difference between it and some of the other no-fee chequing accounts available online.

Related Reading

  • Tangerine is Charging a Fee to Transfer your RRSP or TFSA
  • When Will I Get my Bonus Interest from PC Financial and Tangerine?
  • Do You Transfer Your Cash Between Tangerine and PC Financial to Get the Best Rate?

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