How Much Will I Save on My Home Insurance If I Replace My Roof?

Earlier this year, I called my insurance agent when the renewal notice came for our home owner’s insurance. The premium had gone up again and the coverage had gone down. By phoning in, I was able to reduce our costs considerably. One question they asked was when we last replaced the shingles on our roof. They hinted that a new roof would drop our insurance rate. Today, I’m phoning in to find out how much we’ll save on our home owner’s insurance rate because we have just replaced our 17-year-old roof.

Why Do I Need a New Roof After 17-Year When I Bought 30-Year Shingles?

I’ve discussed our roof before when he had some leaking only about 10 years after the pricey 30-year shingles went on. We discovered that the roofers had made a mistake and put too small vents into too large holes which left a gap for the rain to sneak into the house. It was easily fixed and the years passed by drily.

This spring, however, we noticed over the winter one section of our roof facing the heat and sun had lost a lot of its granules. Sure enough during a heavy, 24-hour long rain, water began to come in. The cardboard backing for the shingles had soaked up water like a sponge and eventually it started to work through them.

So it was time for a new roof. When we spoke with a variety of roofers, I discovered that 10-12 years is all they really expect 25- or 30-year shingles to last. So much for the accuracy of the names!

So What’s the Benefit of Getting the New Roof—Did I Save a Lot on My Insurance?

Now the new roof is on, I phoned our insurance company to ask them to update their file. And guess what? Our annual savings are: $23.

Yep. Just twenty-three dollars a year.

Sigh.

It’s going to take a LONG time to pay off the roof with that cost savings!

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Is Our Health Coverage for Eye Care Worth It or Are We Losing Money?

Recently, I reviewed our work-related dental insurance to determine whether or not we were losing money insuring our children given the high premiums for orthodontic coverage and the low payout for braces. In that case we were (almost) breaking even with our premiums equaling what we will get back. It made me wonder, though, whether we are getting any real benefit from our eye care insurance. Is it worth paying the health insurance premiums for eye tests and eyeglasses or are we losing money?

What Do We Pay for Eye Care Insurance?

We have our health coverage for eye care through my husband’s employment. It’s one of the “shopping cart” of benefits on which he can spend his benefit money.

For our family, the premium is $240.96 per year.

What Do We Get for Vision Care Coverage?

For this we receive:

  • $50 per 24 months per person for eye exams
  • $250 per 24 months per person for eye glasses

Are We Winning? Or Are We Paying More for Eye Care Than We Are Receiving?

Well, this is where the math comes in.

Reimbursement for Eye Exams

First, we don’t pay anything for eye exams for our children because we live in Ontario where the provincial health plan covers those costs.

My husband and I do have annual eye exams, though, and the cost is $60 each. So we use the full $50 each—but we are only entitled to that reimbursement once every 24 months each.

So it would be inaccurate to say we are getting back $100 of the $240.96 per year. In fact, we are using $100 of 2 x $240.96 which is $481.92. Or $50 of $240.96.

So if we apply the cost of our eye exams to our premiums, we still need to get back an additional $381.92 every 2 years to break even. (Or $190.96 each year.)

Reimbursement for Eye Glasses

This one is not obviously a win either. I have had the same eye glasses for over 15 years. Each year the Optometrist confirms that I still need that same prescription. I suppose one of these days that may change (or the glasses may break) but for now, I am not saving any money from being insured.

My husband’s prescription has also not changed for more than 5 years. He did get a new pair about 6 years ago but how often does your child destroy your glasses once they are past the toddler age? I would guess that he is not saving any money from being insured, either.

But what about the children? Ah, now we’re talking $$$!

For 8 years (each) neither needed eye glasses. If we’d been paying this benefit premium for all of those 8 years, we’d be financially in the hole over $1500. However, this cost only started when they downgraded my husband’s benefits a couple of years ago. So fortunately, that’s not the case.

Anyway, our children now need eye glasses. In fact, they’re at that terrible age where they need a new prescription every year. While they both have re-used frames a few times, they need new lenses annually.

This is where it improves. Generally, their eye glasses cost from $150 to $275 depending on the frames and the lenses. Being easily manipulated kind parents, we don’t shop based solely on price. We long ago realized that if our children like their glasses, they will wear them and take care of them. (Which is how they sometimes use the same frames for over 2 years when some of their friends have lost, smashed or mangled theirs within days of their purchase.)

Again, we can’t simply say, ok, that means we claim $300 to $550 per year and get back $190.96. The eye glass refund of $250 per person is only once every 24 months.

So if we paid $250 or more for a pair of eye glasses for one person, that would pay out our cost of $190.96 for that year. And we would be ahead by whatever we paid for any other person that year for eye glasses up to $250.

But the next year, we would still have to pay the premium but we wouldn’t be eligible for any eyeglass reimbursement.

So we break even, or come out ahead, if we are reimbursed for eye glasses for at least $381.92 every two years.

But we don’t always. Sometimes, the bill is only $300. That leaves us with an $81.92 loss over a 2-year period.

(Wait, you say, why didn’t you just use up the rest of the $250 entitlement the second year? See further on for the details.)

Summary Comparison of When We Lose Money on Our Vision Care Premiums

Premium paid first year: -$240.96
Reimbursement for adult eye checkups: $100
Reimbursement for eyeglasses at $150 each: $300
Premium paid for the second year: -$240.96
Reimbursements for the second year: no eligibility if we want to maximize our savings before age 19
Total: -$81.92

We lost by paying $81 more over two years than we get reimbursed.

Summary Comparison of When We Gain Money on Our Vision Care Premiums

Premium paid first year: -$240.96
Reimbursement for adult eye checkups: $100
Reimbursement for eyeglasses at $250 each: $500
Premium paid for the second year: -$240.96
Reimbursements for the second year: no legibility
Total: $118.08

We win by $118.

A Word of Caution about Health Insurance Claim Limits per 24 Month Period

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How I Lost Money Claiming for Eye Glasses

Be careful about how your insurer decides what a 24-month period is, too.

When we first started using this insurance policy, I made a claim of $200 for one child’s glasses in the first year. The insurer reported there was $50 of coverage left. So the next year, I submitted the eye glass receipt for the new prescription expecting to get $50 reimbursed. It was.

The next year, I waited carefully to ensure it was 24 months since the first $150 claim. When it was, I bought my child a third pair of eye glasses and submitted the receipt, expecting to get back $250. It was refused. I was told there was no coverage until 24 months after the second reimbursement of $50!

This despite the policy booklet which says “Coverage is based on a 24-month period, starting from the date the first expense is incurred.”

I still don’t understand how I was refused. But I did learn not to make a small claim and start the 24-month wait clock again. The way I think of it, that $50 claim probably cost me one full pair of eyeglasses because my child’s coverage will end when my child is 19.

The Moral of the Story of Vision Care Insurance

I guess what I learned from exploring our vision care premiums and reimbursements is that we are actually very close to losing money on our eye health plan. I’d strongly suggest anyone who has optional eye care insurance check their own numbers and make sure they are actually saving money by being insured.

And as soon as our children are no longer eligible for eye glasses under my husband’s insurance, I suspect we will drop our coverage.

Why Is the Early Fall a Good Time to Review the Cost and Benefits of Health Insurance?

In our case, each year you have to select what coverage you want for the next year in the autumn. By evaluating whether our health insurance is too expensive to be worth it in September, we are better prepared to make a decision of what to buy in November.

It’s possible your employer uses a different deadline for selecting your health benefits. Check with your HR department if you’re not sure what coverage you may have and when you must make any decisions about it.

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